• Neato@ttrpg.network
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    6 months ago

    It’s a “no true scotsman” but those aren’t leftists. Leftists don’t praise and try to emulate autocrats. Those are people pretending to be leftists who are trying to co-opt, radicalize, or confuse leftists.

    Leftism by definition is opposed to authoritarians.

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      6 months ago

      You mean like Hamas? Leftists have this oppression totempole, and anyone being “oppressed” are automatically good.

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          6 months ago

          Sure. But at the same time, if you attempt to commit genocide, porportional self defense is fair. The question becomes what is porportional.

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            6 months ago

            Proportional self-defense probably ended before November, though, when the Palestinian civilian death toll hopped up to over triple the Israeli civilian death toll from the Hamas attack.

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              6 months ago

              Well, from that single attack on Oct 7th, but thats just one attack out of many. Its unclear just how many have been killed, and by who.

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                6 months ago

                Not really. Even the highest estimates of Israeli casualties for the entire year don’t come close.

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                  6 months ago

                  Maybe? Hamas clearly gives zero shits about civilians and theres so much propaganda coming out, I wouldnt be surprised to find out Hamas has a higher body count.

                  Hell, I wouldnt put it past Hamas to delibritly murder Gaza civilians in order to blame the IDF. Hell, didnt they hit a hospital with a rocket?

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            6 months ago

            You yourself just cut a check for Hamas to indiscriminately slaughter 29k israelis as “proportional self defense” for how far in the red that ledger is over Oct 7th.

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              6 months ago

              Considering they shot a rocket at a hospital and blamed the IDF, I wouldnt be surprised if we’re already there. Impossible to know for sure though