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TVgog56789@lemy.lol to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works ·
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Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries.

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Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries.

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TVgog56789@lemy.lol to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works ·
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  • ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io
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    Wow. I actually agree with Elon Musk about something for once, what a shock!

    Tom Scott has a very good video explaining why electronic voting is terrible all around and it will probably never be secure.

    Tom Scott’s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs Tom Scott’s video via the Computerphile channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI&t=1s

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      That’s loads of BS. Manual in person voting is easily scammed, just look at voting in Russia. Fuck this shit, everything should be 100% digital.

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        Manual in person voting is not easily scammed on a scale that can swing an election. The slow, inefficient, in person, physical process is a security feature.

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          Lol what?

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            A system being slow and inefficient makes defrauding that system similarly slow and inefficient. To affect an election run on paper ballots you have to somehow physically alter or insert thousands or millions of pieces of paper without being detected. This will mean spending large amounts of time and money and must necessarily involve numerous people.

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              https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1770364450144489510

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              Mate, are you high? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSxq50-DsI

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              https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2024/mar/15/russian-woman-detained-after-pouring-dye-into-ballot-box-video

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        I don’t get what’s wrong with paper ballots sent by mail. It’s convenient and easy, with a paper trail for recounts. It’s worked great in Washington for decades.

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          Look at my other replies.

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        Paper voting leaves a literal paper trail unlike electronic voting that’s always a total black box in all countries that have tried it.

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          Look, mate, paper voting simply doesn’t work. And Russia is not the only example.

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            If you think results contradict content of the boxes, then online voting just allows to do it on greater scale much easier.

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              No, online voting prevents malicious actors from scamming the voting process.

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        it absolutely is not easily scammed at all.

        every single piece of paper is numbered and tracked. (tickets and stubbs, basically). all counting is done by multiple people and watched by anyone who wants. political parties are banned from voting premises.

        even better: early voting, in person, up to a week or two before. no crowds.

        errors happen about 1 in 1,000,000 with a maximum of a couple hundred, and are caught immediately.

        there is no scamming. all of the USA’s voting problems are self-created.

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          Ahaha! Ok.

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        Not just digital but trustless decentralised blockchain based so it’s impossibly hard to manipulate

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