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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

  • Takashiro@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    Density is relative to efficiency, and electric wins

    What i cannot understand is people trying to defend something that is clearly worse,

    • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Googling tells me that:

      • Electric cars have 77% efficiency
      • Gas cars have 30% efficiency
      • Electric car batteries have 270 Wh/kg (converts to 0.97 MJ/kg)
      • Gasoline has 46 MJ/kg

      So the math here says electric gives you (0.97 * 77%) 0.75 MJ/kg output and gas gives you (46 * 30%) 13.8 MJ/kg output. Plus, as someone else said, spent gasoline no longer weighs you down.

      I like the idea of electric, and I want to see it replace gas as soon as possible, but fair is fair.

      • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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        5 months ago

        Technically empty batteries weigh less than charged batteries.

        Not that the difference is significant enough to tip the scale though.

      • someacnt_@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        How do you think about hydrogen cars? They have better fuel density, and hydrogen is renewable.

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      5 months ago

      The argument that I’ve heard is that electric cars aren’t actually cleaner because of the pollution caused by mining the minerals required for the batteries.

      • FrederikNJS@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        I’m sorry but I’m too lazy to dig up links to back up my claim. But you are correct in that electric vehicles pollute far more being produced than combustion engine cars, however the electric vehicles gain that back over it’s lifetime if your charge from mostly non-fossil sources. The figures I have read says that over the lifetime of a car, electrics output 70% less CO2 than combustion cars, and that includes the production of each of the cars.