• empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    Go ahead, pressure the lesser evil to be even less evil, but you still have to vote for said lesser evil, or you’re gonna be stuck with the massively bigger evil and no human rights.

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      How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil? Go ahead and direct your effort into reinforcing that decision to me but unless you convince the millions of other people who don’t share your concern for trump we’ll all be stuck with the massively bigger evil and no human rights.

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        How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil?

        If these people are looking for a non-evil choice, I don’t think I could offer them a single figure in all of history that could fit their criteria.

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          7 months ago

          Maybe each percentage more evil we lose a percentage of possible voters

          pragmatically I would think we’d want to make our candidate even a fraction of a percent less evil. I’m not a mathematician though.

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            So you think people WILL vote for a lesser evil, and the AMOUNT of evil that it is DOES actually matter.

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              Certainly, but supporting a genocide is a pretty high level of evil, I imagine a lot of people are looking at that and thinking ‘hmm not worth it’.

              That’s why it’s probably important to make that evil percentage trend down a bit, i reckon

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                So what is the difference between your position and my position with regards to this question:

                How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil?

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                  I’m pushing to make the lesser evil less evil. You’re pushing for people to hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil without even demanding they try being a little less evil.

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        7 months ago

        the millions of other people who don’t share your concern for trump

        Every day I’m more and more surprised these people exist

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            7 months ago

            Please enlighten me on how this is a boy who cried wolf situation? Trump has materially done many, many, many things that would individually be disasterous

            Are you seriously arguing that he’s not really all that bad, or are you just here to troll?

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              Did you ever finish that story?

              In the end, a wolf actually does come and eat the boy. The wolf is real, the boy just abused his post too much and now he can’t rely on people responding to his cried.

              the lesson was supposed to be ‘don’t cry wolf’, but we’ve already moved on to the ‘he’s just crying wolf’ part of the story and now the boy has to figure out how to get people to help him

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                If the village already KNEW the wolf was real and had already killed a bunch of kids, their refusal to respond seems incredibly dumb.

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                  The story had nothing to say about the rationality of ignoring the warning, just that it was foolish for the boy to abuse it.

                  You can either cross your fingers that enough people still believe you or find another way to bring them out (convince the boy to stop supporting… the… the other wolf I guess? Idk this analogy is getting tired)