Thank goodness it wasn’t the same scale as that event, but at least the FBI attempted to negotiate and staved off a full offensive until 51 days had passed. If the Philadelphia police had shown that kind of respect and restraint then things might have ended a lot differently for the MOVE members.
And yet the Waco siege is still a rallying cry for anti-government groups accusing the FBI and DEA of unjust, violent overreaction, while the MOVE bombing is not. Huh, I wonder what the difference is? /s
In the early hours of the Tulsa Race Massacre on May 31st 1921, 44 years before the civil rights movement brought an end to mandatory segregation, a Mob of White Supremacist Terrorists gathered around a Jail where a young black man was accused of a crime but the local sheriffs were protecting him by barricading the entrance to the floor he was held on, and a group of black men gathered in counter-protest but many were convinced to head home when the local law enforcement asked them, claiming they had the situation under control. Unfortunately, the situation escalated when an older white supremacist terrorist attempted to disarm a black counter-protestor by force, leading to a large gunfight that went on into the night and eventually the black men’s retreat into the segregated black community of Greenwood. The white terrorist group had allies in the local government who claimed that Greenwood was an uprising with reinforcements from neighboring cities, and that lead to some 1,000 additional armed terrorists, roughly 1% of the total population of Tulsa at the time, to invade Greenwood and begin the massacre that left a trail of dead and wounded while also burning down the majority of homes.
The perpetrators in these cases were different. The victims were different. You can sit there and claim that the attack on the MOVE compound had nothing to do with the terrorist cult stockpiling illegal weapons, threatening violence to achieve their goals of anti-technology and anti-governance, and shielding their members from lawful arrest, but you’re simply wrong. You can sit there and pretend that the Philly Police evacuating the area and attempting to force the cult out of the compound with tear gas is somehow equivalent to Tulsa terrorists burning down greenwood with people inside, but you’re wrong.
While you’re at it, why don’t you start comparing this to Auschwitz?
because this has nothing to do with concentration camps, and everything to do with the American government and government related massacres in America?
I mean, if you want to bring concentration camps into this, we can start talking about why a majority of the American prison population is black and are used as life long slave labor.
Thank goodness it wasn’t the same scale as that event, but at least the FBI attempted to negotiate and staved off a full offensive until 51 days had passed. If the Philadelphia police had shown that kind of respect and restraint then things might have ended a lot differently for the MOVE members.
And yet the Waco siege is still a rallying cry for anti-government groups accusing the FBI and DEA of unjust, violent overreaction, while the MOVE bombing is not. Huh, I wonder what the difference is? /s
Could unironically be the difference in body count.
That’s possible, but that doesn’t explain the same feeling about the Ruby Ridge incident.
let’s not kid ourselves, it’s not the body count, it’s the same reason they don’t cite Tulsa nor Blair Mountain
Tulsa and these two events are nothing in common.
they don’t you say? so none of them involved Government force, and not for the better?
but let’s be honest, Tulsa just had mainly black victims and was supported by the government (this is fine)
Blair Mountain just had mainly socialists as victims and was supported by the government (this is also fine)
but Waco, those were upstanding whites who refused the tyrannical mandate of the government (real victims)
In the early hours of the Tulsa Race Massacre on May 31st 1921, 44 years before the civil rights movement brought an end to mandatory segregation, a Mob of White Supremacist Terrorists gathered around a Jail where a young black man was accused of a crime but the local sheriffs were protecting him by barricading the entrance to the floor he was held on, and a group of black men gathered in counter-protest but many were convinced to head home when the local law enforcement asked them, claiming they had the situation under control. Unfortunately, the situation escalated when an older white supremacist terrorist attempted to disarm a black counter-protestor by force, leading to a large gunfight that went on into the night and eventually the black men’s retreat into the segregated black community of Greenwood. The white terrorist group had allies in the local government who claimed that Greenwood was an uprising with reinforcements from neighboring cities, and that lead to some 1,000 additional armed terrorists, roughly 1% of the total population of Tulsa at the time, to invade Greenwood and begin the massacre that left a trail of dead and wounded while also burning down the majority of homes.
The perpetrators in these cases were different. The victims were different. You can sit there and claim that the attack on the MOVE compound had nothing to do with the terrorist cult stockpiling illegal weapons, threatening violence to achieve their goals of anti-technology and anti-governance, and shielding their members from lawful arrest, but you’re simply wrong. You can sit there and pretend that the Philly Police evacuating the area and attempting to force the cult out of the compound with tear gas is somehow equivalent to Tulsa terrorists burning down greenwood with people inside, but you’re wrong.
While you’re at it, why don’t you start comparing this to Auschwitz?
because this has nothing to do with concentration camps, and everything to do with the American government and government related massacres in America?
I mean, if you want to bring concentration camps into this, we can start talking about why a majority of the American prison population is black and are used as life long slave labor.
TIL 38.7% > 61.3%