• fubo@lemmy.world
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    On the other hand, anyone who tells you, “I always tell the truth,” is probably lying.

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        No—if they were to ask you, you would lie and say “no”. So the claim that you’d make a true statement is still a lie.

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          You won’t have to lie to said question, but you’d have to tell the truth to do that… or that be a lie too… well, OC is partly right. But it isn’t a surefire solution.

          If your interlocutor end up asking you the question anyway, you either have to answer “yes”, in which case OC told the truth and then you don’t always lie, which means you lied to the answer (as you donlt always lie). Or you answer “No”, which means you lied in OC, but told the truth as an answer.

          Either way, there is no solution to this paradox. You cannot tell that you always lie without telling a truth.

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    You can say the statement. Doesn’t mean the statement is true. You might be a habitual liar and that particular statement is a lie.

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    Unfortunately you are wrong as there is a very distinct way to say the phrase you quoted, that being to utter the words “I always lie.”

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          I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she’s a potatoe doesn’t sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it’s dangerous for ai, even in potatoe form

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            I think she was intelligent enough to temporarily shut down the portions of her brain that would be effected. At least that was my take.

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            I always saw it as her just saying in her mind, “This. Statement. Is. False.” thus just being some four individual one word sentences.

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              That is plausible, but she saw the sign and read the paradoxes on the signboard - surely just seeing the paradoxes written on the sign would have caught her off guard. I guess it doesn’t matter, they just wanted to do a funny moment and it was still good

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          Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.

          Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.

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    “Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.”

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    Technically you can’t always lie (“always” is the key here) so the statement can’t be true. Besides that you can say the words in that specific order, no problem.

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    Not quite. You missed the fact that it doesn’t need to be the entire statement. “I always lie when I say that the sky is green”