• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Like how else is it supposed to work currently? Who wants to deal with people’s trash? Who wants to transport people around at 4 am in his bus AND have to deal with the shit attitude of people on top? Etc.

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      6 months ago

      Some people like doing work like that, the thing is just that these jobs are treated like trash and underpaid

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        6 months ago

        You know, that’s a great point. I’d totally do a “shit job” if it paid decent and be a ton happier. I’m trying to organize and lead and only doing it for the money, and I hate it.

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          6 months ago

          Yup. There’s an appeal to a simple job that you can just do and no larger stress beyond the physical. But if that job involves waste of assorted kind, then you gotta pay enough and treat people with dignity.

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        6 months ago

        Some people like doing work like that

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        Liking something and settling for something are very different things. Most of society is built up around excellence and providing those who can with opportunities to do so.

        The big issue with this is that it can make tons of people feel guilty for never living up to their aspirations. Mediocrity is frowned upon yet it’s the majority of the bell curve.

        Go to a job you don’t hate, don’t hurt others, enjoy life when you can.

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          6 months ago

          Not everyone wants to get the “greatest” career path with getting a bachelor etc, sadly I don’t really have anything outside of anectdotal evidence that there are really people that prefer doing a job like garbage worker or cleaner.

          I don’t really get what you are trying to say

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      6 months ago

      We need to compensate people well for this sort of work. There are a lot of people doing this work right now who are not compensated fairly for this work.

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        6 months ago

        Good point, there are tons of people who can do it. Hence no need to pay them much, since enough do it for less. How to change that? If the people above, saying they would do it for more money, actually do it… What about those doing it now? You only need so many bus drivers etc. and obviously when too many apply higher qualifications will win. Can they do what they did previously?

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      6 months ago

      That’s the funniest thing about payscales and such. They’re far from the meritocracy we’re sold from our first birthday.

      Ask France what happens when their garbage stops going out.

      Or hey, you also mentioned bus drivers, I couldn’t pick just one article about city and school bus drivers striking, but in road-dominated societies, that’s a pretty big deal.

      So really, a ton of this is simply recognizing who does the work that actually keeps society going. If people like waste management and transportation and other services were actually treated with respect, they also wouldn’t have to deal with as much “shit attitudes” either.

      But instead, they’re constantly pointed at by the communities they serve, who say things like “You don’t wanna be a garbage hauler or bus driver…study hard so you can one day sit in a corporate office and make six figures contributing nothing to society!”

      • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth
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        6 months ago

        That changed sometime in the last 10-20 years.

        Now you hear people talking about how good those jobs are and how well they pay.

        I’m like 99.9% certain that change happened because of those robot arms on garbage trucks.

        That’s all it really took.

        They still pay well, and it is not all sunshine and roses, a dump will still stink and trucks will still have to be washed, but it’s not anywhere near as backbreaking now.