Idk? What point is being made? That Democrats took a modest aesthetic step toward fixing a problem they helped create? A problem that runs much deeper than the scheduling of drugs and a problem that destroyed entire communities of color?
I’m not interested in engaging in a debate with you, I just think it’s important to recognize the depth of the issues being discussed and be skeptical of the accomplishments being touted during an election year.
We’re in a thread about a concern-troll criticizing Biden for not doing MORE on Marijuana decriminalization.
I point to the fact that literally all Marijuana legalization efforts have stemmed from Democrats.
And since we know Republicans will do nothing on this and in fact take us backwards in most cases, there really isn’t a further point to be made.
Thus, within the given context, calling Democrats’ action on Marijuan legalization, decriminalization, and outright pardoning of offenders a “modest aesthetic” is gross euphemism.
It is, of course, conveniently never enough with folks; and to that I point to the famed adage, “never left perfection get in the way of progress.”
Biden hasn’t done enough, though. For the amount of damage criminalization has done, tossing out a few pardons does comparatively nothing for those lives ruined by being pressured into pleas under threats of federal criminal possession charges, the lives of children who went without their fathers and entire neighborhoods destroyed by over policing, all of which was caused by laws Biden himself wrote and sponsored. Especially when he has opposed legalization legislation proposed by his own party
But that’s ‘not relevant’ to someone who’s only point is essentially “it’s better than Republicans 🤷♂️”
Asking how old someone is completely defeats the purpose. We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them so let’s not pretend that being old and remembering 1994 “like it was pretty recent” (it wasn’t) makes your opinion in any way superior.
It’s relevant and recent when the majority of the legislators who passed the law are still in congress
We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them
That’s exactly my point. We’re still living in the reality of laws passed by boomers - hell, we’re still being governed by them. That reality doesn’t just go away when the boomers acknowledge they fucked it up, they have to actually fix their shit.
You’re not allowed to talk about the '94 Crime Bill. You’re certainly not allowed to talk about the War on Drugs or the privatization of the modern prison industry.
Nobody ask where Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Tip O’Neal were when any of this shit got passed.
Absolutely and under no circumstances should you google who gave Strom Thurmond’s eulogy.
Memory of a goldfish.
Friendly reminder that mass incarceration was a bipartisan effort going back 4 decades.
Irrelevant. Read again, except this time more closely.
What matters is who changed first.
Democrats.
Democrats changed first.
As, in recent history preceding the great ideological shifts of party banners, they always do.
Nobody ask who co-sponsored the '94 Crime Bill.
but they haven’t changed, and if they want my vote at this point, after the shit they pulled, they basically need to go down on me.
How old are you?
A lot of us consider 1994 to be pretty recent but maybe not to the younger crowd
Does it really matter to the point being made?
Oh man, how far we’ve come in 30 years. I really am quite proud of the Democratic party.
On the flipside, Republicans have if anything continued to regress.
Idk? What point is being made? That Democrats took a modest aesthetic step toward fixing a problem they helped create? A problem that runs much deeper than the scheduling of drugs and a problem that destroyed entire communities of color?
I’m not interested in engaging in a debate with you, I just think it’s important to recognize the depth of the issues being discussed and be skeptical of the accomplishments being touted during an election year.
Being the sole gateway through which Marijuana legalization has occurred is a, “modest aesthetic”?
LOL.
Of course you’re not interested, because you know you’ve got nothing. And yet, here you are.
What an incredibly shallow understanding of a deeply impactful issue.
My thoughts exactly.
But then really, what more is there to get?
Biden hasn’t done enough, though. For the amount of damage criminalization has done, tossing out a few pardons does comparatively nothing for those lives ruined by being pressured into pleas under threats of federal criminal possession charges, the lives of children who went without their fathers and entire neighborhoods destroyed by over policing, all of which was caused by laws Biden himself wrote and sponsored. Especially when he has opposed legalization legislation proposed by his own party
But that’s ‘not relevant’ to someone who’s only point is essentially “it’s better than Republicans 🤷♂️”
Asking how old someone is completely defeats the purpose. We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them so let’s not pretend that being old and remembering 1994 “like it was pretty recent” (it wasn’t) makes your opinion in any way superior.
It’s relevant and recent when the majority of the legislators who passed the law are still in congress
That’s exactly my point. We’re still living in the reality of laws passed by boomers - hell, we’re still being governed by them. That reality doesn’t just go away when the boomers acknowledge they fucked it up, they have to actually fix their shit.
You’re not allowed to talk about the '94 Crime Bill. You’re certainly not allowed to talk about the War on Drugs or the privatization of the modern prison industry.
Nobody ask where Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Tip O’Neal were when any of this shit got passed.
Absolutely and under no circumstances should you google who gave Strom Thurmond’s eulogy.