I have played Eve Online so many hours, and it’s a bad game. Don’t do it. you will spend hundreds of hours dreaming about the cool thing you’ll do later, but for 99% of players the cool thing will never happen. You will be part of the one percent’s cool thing.

Do you have a similar game?

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    Destiny 2.

    Incredibly engaging loop, great gunplay/moment to moment gameplay, and an intriguing story that keeps me interested to see what will happen next.

    Loaded with micro (and macro) transactions and time gating of reused content as the game approaches it’s conclusion and Bungie prepares it’s next project for launch (this project also highlighting the poor state the PvP section of the game is in.).

    Again, so much of my time has been spent in Destiny 2 and a good majority of it I’ve personally enjoyed. But when asked this question it’s my go-to answer to advise people to steer clear if possible.

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      Ha, I was just about to say the same exact thing. I’ve played around 4000 hours of the game because I love the core of the game, but as time goes on so many bad decisions just keep getting put on, and I’ve finally hit my point where I’m just checking out from it for a bit.

      I’ve hoped on every now and then for either the seasonal story (which has wrapped up) or when a friend asks me to, but otherwise… It’s time for my break. When everyone else in my clan had their breaks (Season of the Drifter comes to mind…) I continued to play, but not this time.

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      Don’t forget about increasing the price of each season battle pass by just enough silver so you’re forced to buy more silver than what you need. No new Gambit or PvP maps. Pay walling almost any “new” content (dungeon keys). I could keep going. But hey the seasonal story writing has been amazing.

      I literally feel we’re funding Marathon.

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      Their use of FOMO and timed content really worked against it for me. The new player experience now is just awful. I tried it a while ago. I played for 4 hours, and I had no idea what I should have been doing. I feel like that’s a fair shake, and I gave up on it.

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    Skyrim. The writing is horrible, I can’t remember the name and personalities of more than 5 NPCs, the town’s are microscopic, it can’t handle more than 5 NPCs on screen, all the dungeons are theme park rides with gift shop exits, combat is a horrific sloppy mess, it’s ugly, it has 4 voice actors, it’s a buggy mess despite being released 37 times, the only way to interact with the world is violence, and all of the quests are flaccid boring murderfests.

    I’ve played hundreds of hours.

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      Actually the first thing I thought of. Played the fuck out of that game, but kinda always hated it while playing it. Can’t explain why. Was a weird time.

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      I don’t disagree with anything but man, I love Skyrim anyways. I guess because quests do get repetitive I love the stupid ones, like the ones given by the Mara priestess.

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        People that complain about Skyrim town size complain that Lego Police stations are missing a back wall.

        There are not a lot of games where you can play a thief and up being a vampire, after recovering from a alcohol night with a deadra.

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      Your post is like a year late for me.

      “Everyone” loved the game, so I finally bought it, installed mods for days, played it like an hour and haven’t touched it since. It’s just too shallow in comparison to other/modern games.

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        I do this with a ton of open world games. I always like the scenery and want to enjoy the game but end up bored. Some do manage to keep me interested, I got through Horizon Zero Dawn eventually and enjoyed God of War.

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          I quite enjoyed the Horizon series! I found the world building and enemy design really kept my interest, even if the game follows the Ubisoft formula (though I admittedly do not play that many open world games, and thus lack that jadedness).

          Now I’m partway into Forbidden West after a half year break post Zero Dawn, and my partner’s just finished ZD. I can’t state how much I enjoy shooting components off enemies without getting trampled into the ground, like shooting apples off a tree.

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        Definitely. Wide as an ocean and shallow as a puddle. I would have settled for a nice lake.

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      Thank God Bethesda knows how mods keep them up or I wouldn’t bother with anything they put out.

      Starfield mods bout to be crazy, I can feel it.

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      I’m kind of afraid for Starfield. It looks interesting but given their track record I’m afraid they might botch it up.

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        Don’t even be afraid they “might”, just accept that they will. Go into it with the understanding that it’s going to be an overhyped bugfest when it launches, that you can then eventually fix and massively overhaul with mods, just like every other Bethesda game, and then you can just skip the part where you’re disappointed.

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      When it released I wanted to play it one without any mods. I lasted less than a week.

      I love ultimate Skyrim/wildlander though, it gives it a lot of improvements and I just rp in my head.

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      I must have played skyrim on 5 different platforms, started by playing 250 hours on pirated copy and then buying it and playing for 750 hours at least.

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      This is 1000% my Skyrim experience. Also, Oblivion and Fallout 3. and yet, I can’t get enough.

      I mean, I clearly can, since I haven’t played them in a couple years, but you know what I mean.

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    What I am seeing here is that mostly people regret playing free to play games. That tells me that their business model is working as intended but we should all wise up.

    My regret is spending too much time making cool mods work together and then not playing the games, oblivion was the worst because I didn’t get it until skyrim was a year or two old and there were so many stupid mods out already. Most of them are janky or old and have incompatibilities with each other. I discovered pretty quickly that I need less options not more in open world rpgs because I’m an adult and don’t have time to play games the way my heart wants to (look in every door, under every bush, around every corner).

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      Free to Play games are basically a test of willpower. They use every trick in the book to get people to keep playing and spend money. FOMO via time limited events, gambling addiction via loot boxes/gacha, impatience via playtime or realtime limited resources, sunk cost via slow and difficult to earn resources/rewards. All of which can be “solved” with money.

      On the other hand if you’ve got the willpower to just… ignore FOMO, ignore the gambling, and just walk away when you’ve played a little bit each day, F2P games actually offer incredible amounts of content. Over the past decade I’ve played about 5 different F2P games and never spent a single cent. Each one was pretty fun, and I just walked away when I got bored.

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        yeah the one I played the most of is Warframe, it’s very doable to just play it and I’m impressed by the amount of content they have put out… it almost feels like they failed at the model because I felt so little incentive to give them money beyond wanting to support them, fortunately they seem to be doing fine and I would think that would serve as a good model for others

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    Thomas the Tank Engine on SNES. Me and my mates used to find it hilarious when high. Still do.

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    No Man’s Sky.

    No, I’m not one of the fellas that fell for the hype. I didn’t preorder it. I started playing around 2020, after many patches and updates, my expectations were very low. Even then, I was disappointed, because everything is half baked. I think ~10h is more than enough to see everything there is to see, then it’s all pure repetition.

    I still got almost 500h in it, and check in once in a while, but it’s not “fun”, it’s just cheap comfort food.

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      You know I feel like I was the only person in the world who liked NMS when it came out. I didn’t preorder but I bought it within a month or two of lauch. It was fun to just wander around those giant planets not really doing much. I’ve actually liked it less since some of the big updates.

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        Expectations really affect your opinion on games. There were people who were hyped for NMS for years in advance. People who came to it with low expectations or later in the development cycle seem much less disappointed.

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        You and me both. NMS happened to show up at a time in my life when I really needed peace and quiet, so the slow pace and solitude of the gameplay was great.

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        I vaguely recall Hello Games saying that ~100 players are still playing on version 1.0, probably back on a reddit thread. You’re not alone in preferring the launch version, though I didn’t get to experience it.

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    My dumbass ex-brother-in-law is deep in the process of losing his wife and two kids largely because of his EVE Online addiction.

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      I can see it, I played a lot, but I never lost my job over it.

      But there were folks that were on no matter what, and as time has gone on the micro transactions have only gotten worse and more aggressive. So it’s easy to imagine that those folks who were on 24/7 were burning whatever money they had on the micro transactions.

      The high of the really good things happening felt SOO good. Like pulling off the perfect heist/ambush felt so good it pulled you through another 50 hours of grinding on the amount of adrenaline and endorphins you would get after that 5 minute victory.

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        I’ve only ever been a miner, and not a moon miner, but like the kind who goes to .4sec and just tries finding the most valuable ore… I know there is a huge pvp and pve scene, but like, where can I find it? I’ve also never been a multi boxer, so I have one character who over the course of 7+ years has trained every possible thing, and i have no idea what to do with that, besides maybe joining for a week and strip mining before gettin burnt out

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      I feel like that game isn’t good enough to warrant that sort of sacrifice. It’s gotta be more than just his addiction to tanking a fake economy…

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    Ah Eve Online… yeah… feels like something cool might happen but then you’re 20 hours later and nothing cool has happened yet. I ran a little corp or two for a while and the main thing bringing me back was just interacting with those people. Though running a small corp sucks because nobody ever wants to help you run it or contribute, and then some cheeky fucker steals your, worthless but convenient, shared inventory and leaves.

    I don’t need a 2nd job and I definitely don’t need to be an adult babysitter.

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      Yep, this is mine. And I have barely any time in compared to serious players. But when it was first becoming a thing I think I probably put in 50+ hours playing with my friends. As someone who primarily plays single player games this is a lot. Then I realized I hated every minute playing, and it was making me hate my own friends. It was actually stressful to play. I would be angry after ever play session. So I quit.

      Fuck League of Legends. It’s shit and no one will convince me otherwise.

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        it was making me hate my own friends

        Yep. Other games it’s easy to brush off a mistake and laugh about it. Just something about this one (probably the massive time investment and amount of attention required for every game) had us seething at each other… I played for 10 years and probably played less in those 10 years than most of my friends I played with did in their first 2… Lol. I liked team fight tactics, but blizzard did it better in my opinion. And they removed Dominion. Was the only game type that was worth playing. >.>

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      I really wanted to get into MOBA games, the idea seem really cool. But every one I’ve tried the meta/community seem infuriating.

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        It’s just annoying how everything has to follow the “meta” and if you do dare to try something else and you don’t perform above expectations you’ll get shit on. I just want to play the game the way I enjoy it sometimes.

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    Path of Exile, I loved that game and consider its high point (3.11-3.14 approx) to be the best ARPG ever made and I put a good 1200 hours into it over 2-3 years but after they kept nerfing builds and items over and over (I didn’t like playing the leagues (seasons), preferred the eternal playground of standard) I was seeing my time and progress get invalidated by pointless nerfs over and over in a PVE game no less, so I had to quit playing. The company became hostile to its player base, lying about and hiding major changes to loot drops resulting in more invalidation of people’s time and effort. I understand it’s a free to play game but they already made the best ARPG of all time and to anyone who loves that genre this game is majorly addicting already and all they had to do was add interesting content and leave the systems they had in place alone. So I’m on to other games played more casually and more real life stuff. Fuck GGG.

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      I loved PoE too. Imo there’s too much stuff in it. I haven’t played it for a while but I look at a streamer and it looks like you can’t even walk 2 meters without having 25 different zone/league events happen.

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    Elite Dangerous. I have thousands of hours in it, would not recommend. I got into it with high hopes, but the developers proved their incompetence time and time again. Doesn’t stop me from playing it though, I still love the setting and the… I suppose low level gameplay? Like flying a ship and doing combat etc all feels great, but there’s no higher level gameplay to make it interesting.

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      Don’t play this game. It ruins every other space game. Everything feels dull, arcady, and low effort after ED’S ships, flight model, weapons, and sounds. It also got me permanently interested in space.

      And it’s a game no developer will ever make again, because no casual players will ever play it.

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    Fallout 4. What I seem to enjoy the most out of it is resource gathering to try and build impervious settlements. But Fallout 4 is not Subsistence, or The Forest, or Subnautica. I’m not playing it properly. I don’t care about the story or the characters because they are bad.

    Stick with Fallout NV or 3 for good (first person) Fallout.

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    There are very few. Factorio is amazing and no-one should play it if they value your life. Train Simulator “Classic” will also destroy your wallet, and it isn’t really that good. Horribly buggy, unoptimised, never patched or fixed.

    I tend to go the other way. games I know people like, but I dislike. Far Cry 3 was the worst in the series, and I never got on with Red Dead Redemption 2, despite having 120 hours in it.

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      Far Cry 3 was so frustratingly dumb and yet so popular. The gameplay was fine, but everyone was blowing up about the stupid ass sub-villain with his Philosophy 101 ”zingers" in “White, suburban YA saves ‘savages’ from themselves with horrendous war crimes” the game. It was really irritating.

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    Dead by Daylight.

    The community is absolutely toxic in a very weird way. I’ve played other games with famously toxic communities but in Dead by Daylight it has a strange spin. Some players heavily identify with the killer/survivor side and feel personally attacked by everything “the other side” or the developers do.

    Imagine bringing Tumblr fandoms into an asynchronous and highly competitive Us VS Them game.

    You will regret the day you cross ways with either an unhinged player of DbD who will stalk you throughout the internet. Or someone who streams this game and their unhinged fanbase.

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    Melee: It’s an infinite timesuck and your poor hands will hate you!

    It’s actually a wonderful game and a technological marvel for 2001.

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      The skill curve on that game seems so stupid to want to get into it now days. I played it as a child and it was a fun game, but I moved on and ditched it and never thought of it until it became big on the internet all this time later.

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      every time I see this I think someone must care about this person and is missing the red flags about their crippling addiction

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      I feel this so much. I wasn’t sure if I would answer Ark or The Sims 4. I have my own personal Ark server because I don’t like the timers on official, housing or dino. I have other things I need to do besides watch a downed dino for 20hrs. I don’t want to rely on tribe member dinojoe to help me either. But my goodness I love playing Ark. 😕 I stopped recommending it several years ago. But I still play it myself. 🤔

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      I love ARK so much, it is an amazing game when you customise your own server and play with friends only.

      Just … don’t join any public server where the admin is a 17 yo who makes up weird rules like every woman has to join his harem or no one is allowed to ride a bigger dino than his. ( ´ ▽ ` )

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      Is that screenshot from this year? ARK came out 2015, so if this person had 2 years of playtime in 2020, then they basically spent 40% of their time every day playing this game. That’s 9.6 hours every day!

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        Just in case you’re out of the loop and it’s relevant to you: they’re remaking Ark in Unreal 5 and going to be shutting down official servers for “old” ark within the next few months. And then it looks like you might have to pay for everything all over again. At the very least the base game already seems to have a set price.