• ddnomad@infosec.pub
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    1 year ago

    I’d not expect the private booth to have the club’s employee sitting there and waiting for me to do something that is against the rules preemptively.

    We mostly argue about semantics, but in this instance you are trying to excuse some very questionable behaviour by companies by saying something along the lines of “well you better go and live in a forest then”. And I don’t think that’s a good take.

    For example, how many Lemmy instances are fine with you direct linking to piracy torrents?

    Irrelevant, as all content on Lemmy is public in a proper sense of this word.

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      1 year ago

      Yup. As an analogy, we rent apartments but that doesn’t revoke our right to privacy. We’ve decided people deserve privacy even if they’re only renting and not owning. Same should be true when one is renting space online to store things.

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      Irrelevant, as all content on Lemmy is public in a proper sense of this word.

      /sigh

      How many file hosting services let you share pirated data, publicly?

      Before you start in on “it’s not the same” it absolutely is. It’s private data, which is being shared through a link publicly. Just like bookmark collections.

      And once that file has been identified as piracy, it is very often fingerprinted and blacklisted from not only that instance, but all instances past, present and future.

      That’s essentially what is going on here.

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        Scary illigal content here

        I guess we test and see whether I get banned.

        Also, it’s not the same. A link to a website is not “pirated content”. A link to a website in a “collection” not shared with anybody is not publicly available pirated content.

        Why would Google preemptively ban a set of characters that does not constitute a slur and is perfectly legal to exist?

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          Why would Google preemptively ban a set of characters that does not constitute a slur and is perfectly legal to exist?

          Because they can? Unless your argument is that a third party site should be forced to allow anything that isn’t illegal, or a slur, I’m not really following your train of thought here.

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            1 year ago

            My point is that you should not excuse big corporations for clearly overstepping their bounds when it comes to moderation (as in “minority report” style moderation).

            For Google, it would probably be even cheaper to only check URLs in collections that were shared with anybody, at a point the owner attempts to share them. Instead, they preemptively hide them from you, because “this set of characters offends us”.

            This is something people should be angry about, not find an excuse for.

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              1 year ago

              This is a publicly shared collection, which has been shared with someone.

              Are you not familiar with how the collection system works?

              This isn’t your browsers bookmarks being synced between browsers, this is a collection shared among others.

              You’re literally describing what is more than likely happening in the photo. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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                1 year ago

                Open the link and read the thread, the author is not aware of this “collection” being shared publicly.