I tested out revolt and element. Out of the two element seems to be the most well rounded. What do you people use to replace discord to protect your privacy?

  • GravitySpoiled@lemmy.mlEnglish
    532·
    9 months ago

    Matrix like you. Most foss projects are in matrix as well. Matrix call is awesome.

  • anamethatisnt@lemmy.world
    252·
    9 months ago

    There isn’t a 1:1 app for Discord imo.
    Selfhosting a teamspeak3 (ts3) server solves the voicechat.
    Signal works great for text chats especially now that you don’t need to give other end users your phone number.
    Then I would probably look at hosting a web forum for adding calendars and other planning tools. There should still be possible to show current ts3 users on that site too.
    For open source projects codeberg for code repository/issues/feedback.
    I completely understand those who use Discord for ease of management, as time taken to host the above is time taken from the actual project.

    • EpicGamer@lemmy.worldOP
      6·
      9 months ago

      Yea that is kinda what I have been noticing aswell. I don’t want perfect privacy like hiding my phone number with signal.

      I just want to talk with my friends, share my screen and have text channels without being harvested for data :)

      Element has all of this, the only problem I encountered is that everyones mic is suddely quite noisy as we are used to using discord’s noice suppression. I gues you have to sacrifice something for privacy. And I heard it can be quite a pain to self host, but I still have to try that out myself

    • mamotromico@lemmy.ml
      1·
      9 months ago

      I wish I’d find something that is as easy and performant as discords in-server screen sharing/streaming.

  • Sips'@slrpnk.net
    20·
    9 months ago

    If you still end up using Discord over other solutions, you can use https://vencord.dev/, it is discord, but with all the telemetry pulled out of it. Been using this for when I need to use Discord, assume it’s better than using normal discord at least, but probably still not a perfect solution.

    • Vik@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      9 months ago

      I would add the caveat that since discord don’t allow third party clients, you run the risk of getting your account banned for violating their ToS.

      I’m fine with this personally, but it’s reasonable to not be so keen if your account is important to you.

      • Sips'@slrpnk.net
        6·
        9 months ago

        Yup that is a fair warning. However I have been using it for as long as it has existed, and not have my account banned. But can see this being more of a problem Should Vencord get really popular.

        • Vik@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          9 months ago

          I’ve been using it for a decent amount of time since the first party client doesn’t support wayland.

          You’re right in that it’s probably a slim chance they’ll target you, though I don’t really care about getting banned in any case.

          I wonder if they have a way of highlighting users who use vesktop / vencord to spoof access to nitro features like high bitrate streaming.

      • communism@lemmy.ml
        4·
        9 months ago

        Afaik no one has ever been banned for using a third party client in and of itself. People have been banned for userbotting or spamming but afaik not for using a third party client as a normal human user. But yes it is technically against TOS

    • Rose@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 months ago

      Don’t many of the IRC servers expose your IP address and have bots that store every chat message?

      • poVoq@slrpnk.net
        3·
        9 months ago

        It’s separate, but you can use Matterbridge to connect the chat if you really want.

        Alternatively you can use Jitsi Meet, which can be integrated with Ergo and an IRC webclient like Convos, but that isn’t a simple setup then anymore.

  • communism@lemmy.ml
    13·
    9 months ago

    Matrix is pretty good, only problem is my friend groups can’t seem to make the switch. As in we all want to but we have other groups we talk to on discord so we’d have discord installed anyway, and I think some of us aren’t motivated enough to move our server over. I think generally the problem with privacy-respecting chat apps is everyone’s on whatsapp, everyone’s on discord, few “normies” or even less privacy-conscious communists will want to install a new app/program just to talk to you.

      • communism@lemmy.ml
        2·
        9 months ago

        That’s a good idea! The next time my friends bring up switching to Matrix I’ll probably try set us up a bridge to encourage the move

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
      41·
      9 months ago

      As much as I appreciate what SimpleX is doing, it’s a massive memory hog on Android - 120mb all the time.

      I do look forward to seeing it mature though, I think that will improve, along with device linking.

  • Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    7·
    9 months ago

    Pretty much just matrix and revolt, armcord is a good client to use discord if you just need to use discord but eh

  • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
    5·
    9 months ago

    Element is not a solution, it is a client. Matrix is the protocol. Discord happens to provide both in a spectacularly privacy disrespecting way imo.

    I know of two chat protocols which are quite popular: matrix and xmpp. Matrix seems to be the more flashy but also more energy consuming part. Xmpp is very old and apparently has been EEEd by google at some point which is the whole reason matrix exists imo.

    As clients go, you can use one of dozens of them, each different. Element (and element x) are made by people who also are involved with matrix but run a for profit company as well so beware. They also make contributors sign away their rights if they ever wanted to take element closed source which is a red flag.

    I mostly use fluffychat which isnt perfect but works very well imo. I also have bridges on my matrix server (i use synapse) which connect whatsapp, signal and discord for the folks who dont want to switch over but want to talk to me. This makes is convenient for me and I still have encryption and control over my data in the pure matrix chats.

    I cant comment on running xmpp bc no experience but reports say its very fast. Running your own matrix server or using a known host means you have no ads, no tracking, e2ee and you will likely always know where your data goes.

    Thanks for reading and have a good one.