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Nowadays you cant do anything with the software or hardware you put and have on your pc.
If nvidia is going to go on a power trip, then please make that nvidia drivers is only allowed to get installed by nvidia servicemen before that the servicemen teaches the user about their 30 thousand page eula what and what they can do with THEIR bought hardware.
Microsoft: “what do you mean, your PC?”
Linux: “Its my pc”
Fuckers!
You forgot to add fuckers! “it’s my PC fuckers!”
You’re welcome 😁
If I had to point to an exact time when Windows went to complete garbage, I’d say it was right around the time they renamed “My Computer” to “This PC”. To me, that just shows how their view of your device changed.
If I wanna delete the windows folder, by golly I should be able to - Win 95
I read the article, and a few points stuck out to me:
- This has been a restriction since 2021; now it’s documented in the files and not just the online EULA (ie consistent)
- This is a protection to disallow other companies like Intel and AMD from profiting off of Nvidia’s work
- Nothing is stopping anybody from porting the software to other hardware, eg
Recompiling existing CUDA programs remains perfectly legal. To simplify this, both AMD and Intel have tools to port CUDA programs to their ROCm (1) and OpenAPI platforms, respectively.
I’m all for piracy and personal freedoms, but it doesn’t seem to be what this is about. It’s about combating other companies profiting off Nvidia’s work. Companies should be able to fight back against other companies (or countries).
I mean it’s not like Nvidia is unreasonably suing open-source projects into oblivion or anything, or subpoenaing websites for user data; at least, not yet.
Their motive is likely motr profit but the result is an unjust restriction on user software freedom. It doesn’t matter if they make less money, maximising profit is not why we grant them copyright. Nvidia is often unreasonable, fuck off Nvidia.
maximising profit is not why we grant them copyright
That’s the only reason copyright exists. Because society decided that if you’re the one to put work into developing something, you should be the one reaping the profits, at least for some time.
Society in general has not granted this, it was corrupt lawmakers. Notice the distinction of maximizing profits, no one says no profits should be had at all. But I’m pretty sure most of the people don’t want companies to literally hold back progress of a whole field, of humanity in general just so their profits can be maximized. It’s only the ones directly benefitting from this that would want this, or if you’re brainwashed by those parties, otherwise you’re just against your own best interests (and of the rest of humanity) which is irrational.
No, that’s a lie. Copyright exists solely for the purpose “to promote the progress of science and the useful arts” – i.e., to enrich the Public Domain in the long run. Enabling creators to profit is nothing more than a means to that end.
There’s a good argument that Nvidia only had the money to do the work because of anticompetitive practices, and so shouldn’t be allowed to benefit from it unless everyone’s allowed to benefit from it, otherwise it’s just cementing their dominant position further.
“profiting off their work” this is the equivalent to banning wine.
None of their business if we use a translation layer.
Agreed. I hope lawmakers step in and make EULAs like this unenforceable.
An anti-trust lawsuit is overdue
Take a page from the AI companies’ book - just claim AI “learned” from the CUDA SDK and call it fair use.
Is something like this actually enforceable? That’s like Microsoft saying you can’t use Wine on Linux.
Wine is done on clean room reverse engineering, it doesn’t use any propetriary code as reference. If they had done so, Microsoft would have grounds to sue them.
This can’t enforce anything on CUDA versions below 11.6; but any functionality introduced to CUDA after 11.6 needs to be clean room reverse engineered, so this will make ZLUDA development on those versions more difficult.
Yeah, Wine is very strict about this; IIRC if you’ve ever even looked at the leaked Windows XP source code, you’re not allowed to work on Wine.
Is this in response to AMD’s cuda adaptor
Is this not similar to the Android Java interface?
I guess this is Nvidia’s reaction to projects like ZLUDA.
And that’s a textbook case why monopolies are bad for pretty much everyone except the shareholders of that monopolistic company.
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That’s the neat thing about being in the American oligarchs class. If it’s illegal just make it legal.
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Cuda is the main reason Nvidia has their monopoly. Especially their artifiical limitations on VRAM for more expensive cards would make AMD a lot more interesting if AMD actually had good support.
