I don’t get this meme.
Do both, vote for the lesser evil and demand change by protesting. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts. You are definitely not going to get change by not voting, all you are doing is allowing the more evil to win and prevent you from protesting ever again.
well it’s don’t just vote for the lesser of two evils…
but i don’t remember anyone saying biden was the only thing needed to stop the arming of israel…I said that.
Biden can solely stop the arming of israel by declaring they are committing human rights violations which would prevent arms exports.
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You seem to be confused.
What part of “not voting for a genocide supporter” are you having trouble understanding?
Now do me, I agree with them.
Make sure you go back to at least September though
Ooooh, do me too? I also agree with Linkerbaan.
Who is the current president right now, Donald Trump?
Is Donald Trump going to stop Joe Biden being complicit in Genocide?
And what you’re saying is not even true I have plenty criticized Republicans.
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Yes people that can see that Biden is the one complicit in Genocide.
It’s like DNC voters have turned into the 2016 MAGA cult, purely voting for Biden no matter what he does.
Biden is supposed to not be the Fascist Genocide guy.
That guy is probably a bot
In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.
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Sadly this doesn’t take into account a two party voting system, and is completely wrong. They know they chose evil.
The weakness is Americans sitting on their ass, never peotesting.
Sorry if I don’t trust a keyboard warrior over one of the most influential political theorists of the 20th century.
Nobody asked for “trust”. Just try to take a second to understand what the two party system is or even how the german system works. Keep cherry-picking info like you live in nazi germany, that just makes it easy to see you have no idea what you’re talking about and are repeating popular (trash) arguments lmao
There are two arguments I personally find persuasive. First, are you okay with having voted for a candidate that knowingly supported a genocide with words and with weapons (because it looks more and more like this is / will be the case). Second, what other leverage do you have over the Democratic party. Let them know that they can not win with such a historically shitty candidate, lick your wounds and try again next election.
And if you think Trump is literally Hitler, please do some research and look up what happened after Germany voted for the lesser of two evils (Hindenburg).
Biden makes Trump the VP and dies a year later? I don’t get how that applies.
That’s the point, it doesn’t.
you are a shelter of sanity in a sea of cultists.
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The far-left absolutely makes sense, without suspending reality. You must be thinking of the right wing.
The far left ideology of not being Hitler lol
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No he is running the Knesset
He’s right here look
And that’s why I wont vote lmao.
You misspelled “that’s why I’m giving my vote to trump” ( that’s what not voting does)
Nah, he’s not voting for Trump which is the same as voting for Biden
Actually not voting is a vote for Biden, because I was going to vote Uncommitted, which I’ve been told was a vote for Trump
“Either you’re with us or with fascism”, they say, every 5 fucking years.
21 day old account. Most posts are about not voting in the election to support Palestine. While what’s happening in Gaza is genocide, this account smells like a Russian shill trying to spread FUD in the form of memes. The key part of diplomacy is not running around telling everyone what’s being discussed in private. We shouldn’t hear about potential deals until they are decided on. If Trump wins, he’ll do the same thing Israel is currently doing to eliminate Hamas - which is to go through the Palestinian people.
it says don’t JUST vote. that means vote and then do more. your accusation of shilling is disgusting.
If Biden listens more then does popular things, the effect won’t be in Putin’s interest. Just saying.
Biden needs to pull voters from Trump.
There are two types of Democrat voters today. Those who will suck it up and vote for him because he’s not trump, and those who will find some excuse to not vote for him because he’s not perfect. If he does the right thing for Palestine, they’ll complain it wasn’t fast enough, or they’ll complain about his stance on marijuana, or on the environment, or on some other random thing.
Did you just call a genocide imperfect? What would a perfect genocide look like?
Meh… the Holocaust could have been better. Listen, Biden’s doing a genocide, he’s not perfect.
Yes yes, genocide is super bad. Totally agree.
If you could point me to a candidate with a realistic chance to win that has no genocide, I’m happy to vote for them. But last I checked we were in the United States which has first past the post voting, so we don’t get that option. We don’t vote FOR candidates, we vote AGAINST the ones we like least.
I would be thrilled if I was somehow wrong, and would love for you to help me understand.
Congress and Republicans will limit or regress (see Roe ) any improvements by the population. The system was set up to limit the power of the people.
The reality is that only a consistent strong social movement can influence the ruling powers. They know this. So with media and consumerism, they have created a Controlled Opposition, with the illusion of concessions. There is a reason wealth inequality is worse than the gilded age of the robber barons, but there are no revolts.
Our society is too polarized and fragmented to effect real change. Voting for Biden is like using buckets 🪣 of water to keep the boat afloat. We’re still sinking.
It will take a catalyst. An economic crash, natural disaster, another pandemic, etc. to provide the space for mobilization to effect change through organization. Everyone is sleeping on the climate crisis and the droughts, food shortages and mass migration that will eventually cause global destabilization. That’s why inflation is here to stay and the rich are building bunkers. They know the jig is up and are planning accordingly.
Vote for the lesser evil, or don’t, it won’t stop the boat from sinking. I would love to be wrong; I hope I am.
“Not perfect” uhh that’s incredibly hyperbolic. A piece of cheese could do just as well as Biden has as president. He’s appealed to the right and the banks far more than to the left at a time when issues like those you mentioned desperately need to be addressed ASAP. He’s made little strides in the right direction but if you look deeply into any of his policies they’re more posturing than anything. I’ve said it here before but in a reasonable world he’d be running as a Republican. The left can and should disown him given his history, connections and actions.
Biden is a republican.
I voted Uncommitted, if not voting for a genocider is really gonna get Trump elected maybe Biden should start listening to someone other than the demonic Beau Biden lookalikes running around the oval office.
I’m glad you voted your heart in the primary. But I also really hope you are smart enough to vote him in the general.
That really depends on if the Democrats are actually ride or die on this whole genocide thing.
Democrats are more likely to waver on the Palestinian genocide then the Republicans. But even assuming that they have the exact same positions, Republicans still have measurably worse positions on pretty much everything else.
I enjoy enough privilege to not be troubled by Republican policies, but many of my comrades do not enjoy that same privilege. I vote on their behalf too.
Republicans are worse on everything else, but at least when they’re running things into the ground democrats are actually motivated to take action- as opposed to when its their guy doing it and they all act like their shit doesn’t stink.
Biden eliminated all the supports + eviction protections from covid. If Trump was trying to “end COVID” with 9/11s of deaths happening every month do you really think the Democrats would just be going along with it?
I hope he is smart enough to vote against a genocider. Some of us hold our values more formly than others, I suppose. I promised my mom Id never vote for a genocider.
she/her tyyy
Ah, sorry.
Except that the lesser evil takes your vote as explicit support of everything they’re doing, and will claim it as a clear mandate, we’d like to stop but our hands are tied the voters wanted this.
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Yeah that is another way. The wrong one.
It might be incorrect, because they don’t know your motives, but that’s the whole point of voting - showing your motives. In a voting democracy abstinence is begrudging consent to either candidate. The two party system forces this reality.
Start putting some pressure on Biden so he will work for that vote. He still has a few months of Genocide to go before the election.
… and how?
Physically stopping weapon supply. Blockading transport lines.
What you actually mean is telling people on social media to do those things so you can feel like you’re doing something without actually doing anything.
The left at this point is just a meme.
You don’t know me and what I do in my spare time.
Cool story.
Where can I join you doing this?
Are you seriously asking or was making a satirical comment? Because we can seriously talk about organizing protests. Maybe make a new community for this.
I’m serious, put your actions where your meme is.
Awesome, we can maybe use [email protected] community for organizing?
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
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