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Yet another “brilliant” scheme from a cryptobro. Naturally this caused a gold-rush for scammers who outsourced random people via the gig economy to open PRs for this yml file (example)
which itself is a shitty implementation of ideas stolen directly from Nix (specifically it’s a much worse
nix runorcommawith bits and pieces yanked straight fromdirenv), but with the, ah, sensibilities that can only come from the experience gained implementing one of the worst package managersI dug in and there’s also this related
mashthing that appears to just be an unvetted index of scripts you can pull in and execute with no idea what they’ll actually dofucking genius. your killer app is a vector for malware cause in your excitement to release this shit you designed in like 10 minutes, you decided to push all the hard (and/or impossible — fucking sandboxing?) parts off until later
there’s probably a greenspun’s tenth law about this
i’ve already said that any sufficiently large program eventually reimplements half of apt, badly
If npm had only badly reimplemented anything previously existing instead of rebuilding package management from first principles I wouldn’t twitch at the mere mention of the words “package-lock.json”.
It’s a package manager designed by brilliant feral wolves. Complex, well written nightmare tool that should never have come into existence because it doesn’t know any lesson learned by prior decades of package management, like a great artist painting a summoning circle for nyarlathotep.
I have ranted this so often
From the late 00s to early 10s I worked somewhere where we maintained our own Debian distribution (not terribly far from mainline but some localised things for purpose). I learned a lot of packaging and package management and repo skills from that
And then soon thereafter I was in other roles which also included having to deal with software that did npm things (and, occasionally, colleagues that did fpm things) and…… god. Exhausted to my fucking core.
Year after year goes by, and that fucking disastrous pile of shit ecosystem learns almost nothing. Repeatedly.
And every time I have to touch it, it’s a shitshow. Every. Single. Time.
I would be surprised
I would, in fact, be somewhat willing to bet that this pile of dogshit was the result of at least a day (a saturday?) of discussion, possibly more
remember, you need to bikeshed (all your terrible halfwit dipshit fucking turdbag ideas) langoriously, can’t rush “perfection”
the og homebrew experience
it’ll be fucking wild when my industry invents the ability to learn from its mistakes
Come now, you know that ability was one of the things broken in moving fast~ :sarcmark:
Hey now, let’s not talk crazy pipe dreams.
also, of course it’s a bunch of yaml package recipes with wacky! comments barely wrapping the shell scripts actually doing the work, all of which are dumped into a way too fucking big recipes directory and shat into git, cause no this fucker didn’t learn a damn thing from last time
also, this rant in the recipe file:
I’m guessing protocol here refers to the tea bullshit that’s being hoisted on our global open source ecosystem. the part I’m missing is: fucking what? why? there aren’t any hashes at all in the recipe file which is how Nix and most other package managers worth a damn verify sources. Nix doesn’t even differentiate between source code and pre-built binaries for this — Nix just knows the expected hash for the file and if it pulls an archive of binaries, you just tell it to skip the build step as part of the package definition. pkgx doesn’t even have the immutable bits that make using pre-built stuff mildly harder on a Nix system
Looking at many of those installers: one day I will find the festering goatfuckers who popularized replacing installers with instructions like “sh <(curl https://pkgx.sh)” or, worse “curl | sudo sh”, and I will inform them of the error of their ways, repeatedly and clearly. I expect you folks to provide my alibi.
Sure, it’s not like there’s a whole protocol standard that you can use for signed provenance of binaries which you could incorporate and help promote to make the OSS ecosystem better and more secure.
Nah, look, I solved package management using only my grit and impressively large IQ.
I hate the energy of That Guy that barges into the room and shouts “I solved X!” without researching for 5 minutes what all the people that were actually hard at work solving X came up with, what hurdles they identified, and which paths were already explored.
And it’s always fucking tech guys.
“my only achievement is that I made the most mediocre version of something that already existed and somehow it got corporate adoption” is a whole-ass type of person in my industry, and they’ve always got the biggest gap between self-perceived genius and actual skill level. they always seem to gravitate towards systems software too, somehow
This is me, yesterday, on realizing that gmail doesn’t have inbox sorting options, something elm had in *1986*.
(Look, I know everyone else has long since become beaten into the ground by gmail’s quirks, but I don’t use it personally, and whenever I’m at a job that allows gmail IMAP clients I use those instead. It honestly never occurred to me that the dominant client that’s slowly strangling all small mailers wouldn’t have “change sort order” as a basic fucking function.)
The deficiencies in the goog interfaces, across multiple products, are legion. I recall someone talking about it recently compared to Palm Pilot, and how the latter could do detail obscuring when just wanting to share a single piece of information on a screen (think the examples used were calendar and contact)
The other “fun” thing is how they kill off features/things to force people into how they want a thing to be used. And I believe IMAP with normal credential auth is one of those on the list for later this year… 😡
Reminds me of the time I was at Barnes & Noble and this lady comes in with her little boy (4-6 maybe?) and they head for the children’s section. At the entry to the children’s section she tells him to go find a book, and they separate. He walks a step to the first display in the center of the entry area, grabs something, and shouts “Momma I found a BOOK.”