• tetris11@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Belgium, Germany, South Africa, Australia, Japan, England, Rwanda, Turkey, the list just goes on – you should always remember that there are way more countries out there with clean colonial pasts than not, and some of these mentioned above are shining examples.

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        Belgium

        Ever heard of the Congo? Still issues there as a result. Belgium still has a monarchy last I checked, and still hasn’t fixed the evil shit they did. Well maybe there’s some movement on that. Bit overdue.

        https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/06/30/belgium-moving-regrets-reparations

        Germany

        …moving on. No seriously you can’t think of anything Germany has ever done wrong? Okay more contemporary. Shutting all those nuclear power plants so they could buy gas from Russia, which props up the Russian war machine, was an excellent move, also opening new coal mines to speed up killing all those pesky Pacific Islander peoples is great. Size 24 /S here for the people that missed it.

        South Africa

        Has an absolutely awesome record on human rights!

        https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/south-africa

        Members of the South African Police Services continue to violate rights with little accountability. On July 5, the court acquitted four police officers of killing Mthokozisi Ntumba, a bystander shot and killed during student protests at the University of Witwatersrand on March 10, 2021.

        Killing students is so 70’s of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

        Australia

        You really added Australia to this list and followed up with

        there are way more countries out there with clean colonial pasts than not

        Australia had a referendum just last year where they told Indigenous Australian’s they don’t want to give them constitutional recognition or allow the establishment of an advisory committee to Parliament. Lets not delve too deeply into the ancient history here though. The White Australia policy was only a thing until the 70’s.

        Lets move on to war crimes shall we?

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-19/afghan-war-crimes-report-released-what-you-need-to-know/12899880

        How about the secret courts that have been established?

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-05/witness-j-how-can-a-trial-be-kept-secret/11739288

        Or how the Government can declare evidence is of importance to “national security” without providing evidence and refuse to allow that evidence to be used in a defence against charges?

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-18/david-mcbride-guilty-plea-whistleblower-protection/103120544

        Oof. When China does it China is bad. When Australia does it they’re “paragons” of human rights! Silly me.

        England

        Okay now I know you’re fucking with me.

        https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/02/15/thats-when-nightmare-started/uk-and-us-forced-displacement-chagossians-and

        And yea it counts if the victims are still alive, and the evil cunts that did it are still alive. Oh and would you look at the UKs partners in crime?

        https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/01/19/hrw-submission-united-kingdom-international-agreements-committee-uk-governments

        Human Rights Watch has been monitoring, documenting, and assessing the human rights conditions in Rwanda since before the 1994 genocide. Serious human rights abuses continue to occur in Rwanda, including repression of free speech, arbitrary detention, ill-treatment, and torture by Rwandan authorities. Political space in Rwanda remains tightly closed and the opposition face routine threats and harassment. The reality of conditions in Rwanda calls into question and severely undermines the government’s assessment of it as a safe country for asylum seekers and refugees to be sent to, as set out in its country policy and information notes, equality impact assessment, Safety of Rwanda Bill, and its policy statement. This submission focuses specifically on the Policy Statement’s sections on Rwanda’s judiciary, human rights record, and compliance with international agreements.

        Rwanda

        See above.

        Turkey

        I mean you just gave up when you said “England” and didn’t even refer to them as the UK but sure, whatever. Turkey? The authoritarian dictatorship Turkey that’s been busy genociding the Kurds. Wait a sec, the term genocide seems familiar, doesn’t that come from something Turkey did to Armenians?

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        Crazy, because all of those countries have an awful history of human rights violations that was only stopped when they were forced to at gun point. Many of those countries have had recent human rights violations too. You’ve picked countries that’re currently struggling with racist and sexist tendencies actually. You should read some UN human rights violation reports before you make stupid claims.

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        Are you fucking serious? Half of those countries are actively supporting genocide in Palestine for one thing. Australia has fucking concentration camps! And Turkey? Please tell me you’re joking. You aren’t actually saying Belgium is a “shining example of a clean colonial past” right?