I agree that Dinesh is a cock, and he’s clearly talking out of his ass here but it’s kinda bootlicky to suggest that the measure of someone’s credibility should be attacked simply for being a convict. It’s a little jarring to see so many leftists, and even leftist anarchists suddenly becoming defenders of the American legal system.
D’Souza was convicted of making illegal campaign contributions in the name of others, i.e., he was a straw donor. I hate the American campaign finance system, and I hate it even more when someone feels they have to even go beyond what the shitty law allows. People like him are a big part of why the system sucks as bad as it does. So I feel no shame in calling him a felon.
You can call him whatever you want if that makes you feel morally superior. It’s just surprising to me that there are so many people in leftist and anarchist spaces lining up to lick the boot now that state apparatus is pointed at the orange man. It’s disingenuous as fuck and more than a little hypocritical.
Excuse me? You don’t think that being a convicted criminal should reflect on someone’s credibility?
I can’t tell if you are serious.
OF COURSE IT’S A REFLECTION ON THEIR FUCKING CHARACTER. They’re proven to have broken the law. How could that not be a negative reflection? Unless you’re just a fucking crook yourself that is.
Settle down, friend. I don’t recognize the supposed legitimacy of the state in any of its forms or functions, so being on the governments naughty list means nothing to me in terms of a person’s character. A better indicator of character would be their professed ideology or their past behaviors.
Which makes you stupid enough to not bother engaging with any more. You don’t have a friend in me, you’ve got someone who thinks you’re an absolute waste of breath. That level of fucking retard just isn’t worth the time.
I’m not in the business of making friends with statists anyway, so I’ll be fine without you. I find it hard to have a conversation with someone when their breath smells so strongly of boot leather.
It’s absolutely fucking retarded to believe that people who believe in the rule of law are bootlicking. Just staggering stupidity being displayed, but considering your comments above you’re just reinforcing to everyone how ridiculously stupid you happen to be.
I’m sure you’ll continue to exist without me, but that you believe you’re fine is yet another example of just how lost you happen to be.
I’d say you should get help but there’s no helping the likes of you, so the best we can hope for is you get what you deserve.
The fact that you’re getting so worked up over this says more about your intelligence than mine. And the amount of times you called me stupid says to me that I’m interacting with an actual child. Step away from the keyboard and get some perspective. Online arguments are not worth this temper tantrum you’re throwing right now. Settle down and have a juice box, kiddo.
Don’t try to act like all superior to that person. Your comments were by far more stupid and all you’re doing is reinforcing the perception of you that you think you’re way smarter than you actually are.
Insane you’re getting downvoted for this. You’re right. You can hate someone, but to suggest the government taking legal action against them is a reason is real shitty. But this is US politics in 2023. No one has to be consistent or rational. Just angry at the right people. Your supposed principles don’t matter, as long as you’re hurting the right people.
I don’t mind downvotes, it’s still engagement and it’s been civil. And here’s the thing; I don’t know if I am right. I just know how I feel about shit.
Well, my belief is you’re right. Which is all we can know on a matter of ethics. Isn’t that the first sort of “rule” in the categorical imperative? Act in such a way as you believe should become the norm?
If these people are saying being charged with felonies makes you a bad person, then every single person charged with felonies should be treated the same way. That’s inherently wrong.
Dislike someone for their moral failings. And Donald trump and his fascist cronies have…fuckin tons of moral failings. That’s what makes them bad people. They hate for orientation, skin color, poverty, they steal, lie in an effort to hurt others…the list goes on. But nowhere on that list would be “charged with a crime.” Now, what they did to be charged with a crime is entirely fair game. Because those are moral failings. But to say, “he’s an alleged felon, fuck him” is beyond wrong. Because if you apply that thinking to everyone, we’ll, you’re writing off a whole lot of people for the same reason.
The government doesn’t make our moral decisions for us. They make value rulings for the status quo.
I agree that Dinesh is a cock, and he’s clearly talking out of his ass here but it’s kinda bootlicky to suggest that the measure of someone’s credibility should be attacked simply for being a convict. It’s a little jarring to see so many leftists, and even leftist anarchists suddenly becoming defenders of the American legal system.
D’Souza was convicted of making illegal campaign contributions in the name of others, i.e., he was a straw donor. I hate the American campaign finance system, and I hate it even more when someone feels they have to even go beyond what the shitty law allows. People like him are a big part of why the system sucks as bad as it does. So I feel no shame in calling him a felon.
You can call him whatever you want if that makes you feel morally superior. It’s just surprising to me that there are so many people in leftist and anarchist spaces lining up to lick the boot now that state apparatus is pointed at the orange man. It’s disingenuous as fuck and more than a little hypocritical.
I think that as a non-criminal, I get to be both morally AND ethically superior!
Excuse me? You don’t think that being a convicted criminal should reflect on someone’s credibility?
I can’t tell if you are serious.
OF COURSE IT’S A REFLECTION ON THEIR FUCKING CHARACTER. They’re proven to have broken the law. How could that not be a negative reflection? Unless you’re just a fucking crook yourself that is.
Lots of people who have been “proven to have broken the law” never did. Our justice system is completely fucked.
Not saying Dinesh did not, just saying that prosecutors are often giant pieces of shit.
Settle down, friend. I don’t recognize the supposed legitimacy of the state in any of its forms or functions, so being on the governments naughty list means nothing to me in terms of a person’s character. A better indicator of character would be their professed ideology or their past behaviors.
Which makes you stupid enough to not bother engaging with any more. You don’t have a friend in me, you’ve got someone who thinks you’re an absolute waste of breath. That level of fucking retard just isn’t worth the time.
I’m not in the business of making friends with statists anyway, so I’ll be fine without you. I find it hard to have a conversation with someone when their breath smells so strongly of boot leather.
It’s absolutely fucking retarded to believe that people who believe in the rule of law are bootlicking. Just staggering stupidity being displayed, but considering your comments above you’re just reinforcing to everyone how ridiculously stupid you happen to be.
I’m sure you’ll continue to exist without me, but that you believe you’re fine is yet another example of just how lost you happen to be.
I’d say you should get help but there’s no helping the likes of you, so the best we can hope for is you get what you deserve.
The fact that you’re getting so worked up over this says more about your intelligence than mine. And the amount of times you called me stupid says to me that I’m interacting with an actual child. Step away from the keyboard and get some perspective. Online arguments are not worth this temper tantrum you’re throwing right now. Settle down and have a juice box, kiddo.
Don’t try to act like all superior to that person. Your comments were by far more stupid and all you’re doing is reinforcing the perception of you that you think you’re way smarter than you actually are.
The fact that you I’m worked up when I’m just being dismissive of your retarded bullshit just goes to show how fucking stupid you are.
Stop trying to act like you’re anything other than a malicious piece of shit fascist asshole.
Shut the hell up you whiny petulant brat
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I’ll say what I want, thanks.
Insane you’re getting downvoted for this. You’re right. You can hate someone, but to suggest the government taking legal action against them is a reason is real shitty. But this is US politics in 2023. No one has to be consistent or rational. Just angry at the right people. Your supposed principles don’t matter, as long as you’re hurting the right people.
I don’t mind downvotes, it’s still engagement and it’s been civil. And here’s the thing; I don’t know if I am right. I just know how I feel about shit.
Well, my belief is you’re right. Which is all we can know on a matter of ethics. Isn’t that the first sort of “rule” in the categorical imperative? Act in such a way as you believe should become the norm?
If these people are saying being charged with felonies makes you a bad person, then every single person charged with felonies should be treated the same way. That’s inherently wrong.
Dislike someone for their moral failings. And Donald trump and his fascist cronies have…fuckin tons of moral failings. That’s what makes them bad people. They hate for orientation, skin color, poverty, they steal, lie in an effort to hurt others…the list goes on. But nowhere on that list would be “charged with a crime.” Now, what they did to be charged with a crime is entirely fair game. Because those are moral failings. But to say, “he’s an alleged felon, fuck him” is beyond wrong. Because if you apply that thinking to everyone, we’ll, you’re writing off a whole lot of people for the same reason.
The government doesn’t make our moral decisions for us. They make value rulings for the status quo.
All cops are bastards, except when they’re arresting someone I don’t like.
Your words, not mine. I think they’re all still bastards.