• rustydomino@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It’s stupid because they don’t understand probability and risk assessment. Yeah there are side effects but they are exceedingly rare and even if you get them the outcomes are usually far less severe than the disease you’re trying to prevent. It’s like saying “I refuse to wear a seat belt because it might wrinkle my suit jacket.”

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      9 months ago

      I think that’s up to each person to decide. Similar to how it’s rare to die in a flight crash and most people accept the risk, but not all.

      Whats so complicated about probability? They know it’s a low probably, but it’s higher than zero, always.

      Almost all people who didn’t vaccinate against covid are still alive and well you know.

      People take a risk either way. Taking the vaccine or not taking it.

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        Almost all people who didn’t vaccinate against covid are still alive and well you know

        Ah, so we’re just ignoring the 7 million deaths from covid then. (Source: the World Health Organization (WHO)

        Covid killed more people than the fucking holocaust, so far, it isn’t even finished yet. I don’t understand how people don’t realize this.

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          The issue is most of these anti-vax dumbfucks have never lived, seen, or been around infectious disease killing or disabling people. It’s all theoretical to them and wild stories. They have no personal experience with the disease.

          Vaccines had sufficient public buy-in when they were introduced because a large portion of society knew or were related to someone that had suffered the consequences.

          Let’s put it into some perspective. The Spanish flu pandemic is estimated to have killed between 25-50 million people. The population of the globe at that time is estimated to be around 2 billion. That’s 1.25-2.5% of the globe died. 1 person out of 40-80 died. Everyone knew somebody or was related to somebody that died of the flu.

          So even though there has always been dumbfucks who refused vaccination, the majority of the population complied.

          I don’t know anyone personally that died of covid. Currently estimates show 14.8 million excess deaths since 2020. This is likely the number of people who died of covid. Out of 8 billion. Or 1 out of 540 people died, mostly in countries with below average medical care.

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        9 months ago

        It’s a contagious disease, you won’t put other people in danger by not going on planes.

        What is so fucking difficult to grasp that plague rats aren’t good for society.

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        Yes people can die in a flight crash, but it’s more likely to die in a car crash so choosing the car over a plane is just dumb when it comes to risk manegement.

        Yes almost all people who didn’t vaccinate against covid are still alive, but the percentage of people who took it is even higher.

        When i jump out of a plane with a parachute i might die, it’s a risk either way so why should i bother to open it?

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          I think it’s about having control over the risk too.

          If you take a plane, you are not in control. When driving a car, you are. I think the latter makes a lot of people feel more comfortable.

          Anyway, all these analogies are not really fitting. I think when it comes to covid, it’s each person’s decision what to do. Makes sense to me. :)

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            Yeah you’re totally in control when a truck driver falls asleep and crashes frontal into you.

            Just like you’re totally in control when the person next to you in the train doesn’t wear a mask and spreads the virus towards you

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        9 months ago

        Whats so complicated about probability?

        Probably that it is at the end of the day still chance, and once it happens it happens.

        Almost all people who didn’t vaccinate against covid are still alive and well you know.

        Pretty sure that’s wrong.

        People take a risk either way. Taking the vaccine or not taking it.

        You’re also taking a risk to take the disease head-on or not. Side effect of Covid include

        -Excessively high fever
        -Weakness
        -Potential risk of Long Covid
        -Fucking death

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        Look, I can see where you’re coming from even if I don’t agree with you, however

        Almost all people who didn’t vaccinate against covid are still alive and well you know.

        This is a straight up lie. Where the fuck have you been the last 4 years? Many people died, and many of those who didn’t have lasting issues.