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    10 months ago

    To be fair, as a democrat, I generally view conservative voters as easily-misled people - essentially “dumb,” I view conservative leaders as thugs trying to overthrow America, and I view conservative corporate heads as ruling class elites. When you’re using such an overarching term as “Conservative” or “Left” it comes with the unsaid caveat that there are many subgroups that can differ greatly from one another.

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      I don’t know how anyone wants to self identify as a conservative whose platform is currently:

      1. The dumbest with Donald Trump slurring and stumbling over his speeches

      2. The thugs trying to overthrow America with “Project 2025”, war on WOKENESS, book burning and being anti-choice

      3. The constant meddling of oil companies, cable companies, news companies into what information we get - along with dark money getting funneled to politicians to suddenly say moronic shit like “we can’t take gov money to feed school children”

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        The conservative voters I know all stand for one thing: stubbornness. They make a decision to do something, they do it until they die, and they take great pride in doing so.

        It’s essentially vikings if, instead of needing to die in battle to get to Valhalla, you needed to die of an easily-preventable disease because you never got that weird lump checked out, because if you’d admitted you had a problem you’d be weak, which is worse than death.

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          I live in a very conservative neighborhood and can say that stubbornness seems to play a huge, huge part of it. But I also wouldn’t discount the insecurity that plays into a lot of conservative men as well. The kind that buys huge trucks, just to commute to an office job. The kind that tries overly hard to impress you in weird “manly” ways, like always having a beer in their hand when they know you’re coming over for something.

          Basically half the guys around here are either stubborn dickheads who do things like refuse to tell their wives when they’re going out of town for work - and the other half are dudes constantly trying to validate their manhood by projecting a flimsy aura of toughness. Frankly, it’s exhausting.

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            like always having a beer in their hand when they know you’re coming over for something.

            I mean, there’s an alternate explanation for this one - it’s not only when they know you’re coming over, they just have a problem.

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              Nah. I have friends that are alcoholics and this guy ain’t one. But a beer in his hand and a giant truck in the driveway might make you think he’s a blue collar bad ass instead of a skinny nerdy engineer.

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            dickheads who do things like refuse to tell their wives when they’re going out of town for work

            lol wait what?

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              Sorry, that was a very personal reference to a neighbor of mine. He does it all the time, so she’ll do stuff like make dinner and then he just doesn’t come home. When she texts him to find out if he’s working late, he’ll be like “I had to fly to Montana for work.”

              He’s the most stereotypical stubborn Republican that I can imagine. He considers himself a libertarian because he doesn’t want to pay taxes for pesky things like roads and schools. But he also has very strong feelings that women shouldn’t be able to get abortions, which shouldn’t really jive with the small government thing. He’s a solid red voter down ballot every election.

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                This reminds me of a coworker I had who used to call the Department of natural resources and try to convince the poor clerk that he shouldn’t have to pay for a fishing license for him and his wife because gay people have the right to get married. I still don’t understand the logic on that but that’s what I overheard.

                He then went on to attempt to abduct the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

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                  He then went on to attempt to abduct the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

                  Well that certainly took an abrupt, if not entirely unexpected, turn.

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          “Shouldn’t you be trying harder to convince me?” is the new “You should smile more.”

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          Now you’re reminding me of my uncle and his multiple hernias. He waited for years to get them taken care of because he didn’t want to have to deal with the recovery time.

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        Because of propaganda.

        1. A Self-made Business Man™ is miles better than Bumbling Biden the fascist communist.

        2. WOKENESS IS KILLING AMERICA. Books brainwash you into being woke. Project 2025 will save us from woke.

        3. Thats the liberal media, “my guys” are normal working men, they wear plaid shirts sometimes and pose for pictures in a workshop.

        No I don’t actually believe any of that, but that’s your list in conservative language served to the masses by your friendly thousands of miles away neighborhood newscaster propagandist.

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        Oh, they just relate to the poor speech, lack of coherent sentences, and overwhelming pride.

        They just shout “one of us, one of us” a bit louder with each misstep.