Russia’s Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning into an uncontrolled orbit, officials say.
The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon’s south pole, but failed after encountering issues as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.
It was Russia’s first Moon mission in almost 50 years.
The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.
Roskosmos, Russia’s state space corporation, said it lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after running into difficulties.
Normally, I’d say that it’s a great shame that a piece of valuable scientific equipment was lost and that it’s a massive loss to humanity as a whole as the international scientific community is usually able to co-operate regardless of boarders.
But this time, Russia said they won’t be sharing any data gathered from this probe with the international community and would be keeping it all to themselves so suddenly I don’t give a shit.
I agree but I’m also happy that Putin doesn’t get a win by presenting this as “Russia is great and all because of me”.
Reminds me state TV propoganda “no Putin - no Russia”.
Technically he won, otherwise it was vicroty of science over Putin’s corruption.
I’m huge space nerd, but I personally wouldn’t say that loss of space mission is a loss for humanity.
If the James Webb had failed to deploy, I would have been fucking pissed. That would have been a massive loss for humanity.
A random moon probe, not so much. I’m almost happy Russia is denied the good space PR and nationalism bump.
How much data did they gather from the probe?
Just enough to prove their extreme level of incompetence in doing anything at all.
I wonder why. Maybe they were going to sell it to China? Or maybe putting random sycophants in the position of running their space program leads to this type of political stunt.
Russia
Well, enough to not give a shit lol.
Maybe they actually found something amazing and this is a cover story so we dont try to force them to share it.
Could be, but I assume Putin would prefer a successful mission for propaganda purposes domestically and to the rest of world.
you didn’t put the ‘/s’
Boy, that Russian missile REALLY missed the pre-school in Kiev they were aiming for.
*Kyiv
This transliteration is so freaking weird. Letter Ы should be agreed to English Latin alphabet.
There’s no bI in Ukrainian.
There is Ы sound. Which is how Kyiv should be pronounced.
Ukrainian И produces near-front near-close unrounded vowel.
Russian ЬІ produces close central unfounded vowel.
Do not pronounce Kyiv with the latter. The articulation is just not as comfortable as the native one.
Russian to Ukrainian mapping: ы - и и - i й - ï
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Well, they actually hit what they were aiming for at least.
So you’re sure it wasn’t supposed to crash on Ukraine?
Huh. I don’t see any hexbears or Lemmygrads on this thread. Interesting. Can’t complain.
God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a communist.
Putin-fans and Russian bots can go eat a dick, though.
There’s nothing communist about today’s Russia.Also the fact that they all act like /r/the_donald trolls
Nothing makes me less inclined to hear out your opinion when you’re acting like a middle schooler whose trying to look cool in front of his friends lol
They are not communists, they are russian apologists.
They’re tankies.
Tankies used to care about communism. Now they’re just anti-western. They will not question if Russia or China are actually communist because it doesn’t matter. They don’t care about worker protections or freedoms. They only care about “owning the west.”
Yeah I find them rather funny… I’m antiamerican and leftist but many seem to think that it’s a binary and we must choose.
Having actually lived and worked in China for the CPC, I find their idolizing of the modern Chinese nation-state a bit laughable
Fuck Putin, fuck Stalin. Peace to world, glory to science and production, mechanize ancillary work, reduce manual labour.
Here’s a little bit of communism you didn’t want.
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Not communists. (Also, most of them have never made a commit. They didn’t do anything.)
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
I don’t care about their personal beliefs of any one of the contributers. As long as the software works, that’s fine. I like rocketry, but the nazis contributed a lot to that. It doesn’t matter though. It doesn’t change the function of it.
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
You sound like communist
Yeah, I would mostly agree with that. More of an anarchist bent, but sure. I’m not a tanky. I have no issue with communism, but I do have an issue with authoritarianism, especially authoritarianism that uses the name communism as a cover while not protecting worker rights and freedoms.
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God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
Those communists are the ones who built the platform you’re speaking on.
I just meant this place wouldn’t exist without some of these “communists” and since they made it and were here for years before most of us, it’s not surprising there’s a lot of communist content.
You sound like you’re implying that because they made significant technical contributions to useful software, then that automatically validates their political beliefs, and /u/[email protected] should just put up with it.
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Sure, and the software is pretty good. Nazi rockets were also good. It doesn’t mean anything else is good or valid about them. I don’t care if the creator is a tanky (definitely don’t care if they’re a communist) to enjoy the software. It is a useless point to say they created it as a way to justify anything else being good.
It’s an appeal to false authority and therefore unrelated to the conversation.
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And? They don’t run anything but their own instances.
Its FOSS. they don’t have any ownership over the platform as a whole. If they started trying to fuck with the lemmy source code for their own agenda, then we’d just fork it and carry on as before
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No not at all. The core contributors of lemmy just happen to be communist
They’ve been real quiet since that probe dropped 😂
They’re all hiding because they’re ashamed.
There is nothing communistic in Rogozin
Isn’t Lemmygrad defederated from this instance
Could be. They aren’t on my home instance. I’ve seen several threads about this and literally none of them, as far as I could see, had any comments from them.
The “Kaputnik” has landed.
They call it a successful missile strike on the moon and they’re back to winning again.
The Lunar War over minerals is going to be so fucking stupid and fun.
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There probably isn’t a worse war in terms of property damage per money spent to damage it you could come up with. Setting up a system of mining minerals, sending it back to earth, and making money on the process is going to be the biggest megaproject you can imagine. All of it very easy to break.
“Today, Russian engineers managed a perfect example of Lithobreaking on the moon, showing the superiority of Soviet cosmonautics.” – Russian News Outlets
No no no, the moon illegally and meanly crashed into innocent Russia’s poor little defenseless space robot without any provocation!
Robot Fedor)))))))
Must’ve been a Ukrainian
hospitalmilitary base there.They will say Nato/US/Ukraine hacked into the spacecraft and made it crash. You heard it here first.
Essentially my narcissistic ex: everything bad that has ever happened to her is someone else’s fault.
so you’re saying Steven Segal likes Russia because it’s sort of a home for Narcissism… yeah, i guess i can see that…
Gotta say that if Russia is to be believed, Ukraine has some seriously 1337 hacking skillz.
Let’s bet on money? I think they won’t.
I’m impressed they managed to hit it
This region of the pole will henceforth be known as “Lunar Poland”.
Noo, not a Russia!
Somebody better break the news to Hexbear; they were really close.
In Soviet Russia, moon land on YOU!
which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements
Oh great. We’re going to start destroying the moon now too?
It’s a rock with no air and no life. How can we hurt it?
Yeah between all the other alternatives I think strip mining the moon is pretty OK. It’s not as good as doing nothing - but I’d rather do it on a body with no ecosphere instead of destroying habitats
Why is it not as good as doing nothing? What benefit is there to not doing it? I mean, I could get surface preservation and keeping the moon pretty for the sake of humanity… But it sounds like there’s any inherent value in not doing it?
You know those pictures taken from the Moon of the Earth? The ones where you can barely make out big islands like Cuba?
No one on the Earth will know anything is going on up there unless they have a very powerful telescope.
Yeah, that’s true. We would be talking about terraforming projects on an enormous scale, unlike anything we’ve seen before.
What I’m saying is just that, if it came to that, I can understand wanting to preserve the surface of the moon, for sentimental and/or historical, human reasons, even though preserving the surface also doesn’t provide any real, practical benefit.
I’m not arguing we shouldn’t, but the “ideal” scenario with any natural resource is always to preserve it in my book
But this is certainly a case imo where the upsides would outweigh the downsides
Why? I can point out reason why preserving some wetlands is a good thing by pointing to plants and animals and humans. Something is only good because something benefits from it. Nothing is intrinsically good or bad.
It is a dead lifeless airless rock in space. Who suffers if a billionth of a percent of it is used for something?
I think you’re entirely misunderstanding my meaning and sentiment, given that I don’t disagree with anything in your comment
You need to read more science fiction.
Lucifer’s Hammer or Seven Eves might be in order :)
I have read both. In ‘Seveneves’ the Moon breaks apart for no known reason and in ‘Lucifer’s Hammer’ it’s not the Moon that impacts the Earth.
are you saying we can’t find a way to ruin that thing for future life… hold my lunar module, son…
WTF is ‘future life?’
No air, no water, either blasted by unfiltered sunlight or near absolute zero. It’s a lifeless rock.
okay how about this… we develop terraforming tech in the near future, but something we’re doing to the surface water there now (for example), spoils this process forever on our own Moon… because WE weren’t careful and polluted the environment for them… i think that sounds like something we could accomplish…
The ‘water’ on the Moon is ice buried below the surface.
There is nothing up there.
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i’m gonna write that down alright… you’re very helpful…
It’s the moon. There is no life there.
