Am i the only one left who doesn’t want a snap docker Kubernetes container and just installs nextcloud in a normal way and never had any problems?
Same here. I’m just installing it normally, and my nextcloud instance is just chugging along.
In my own personal experience, Nextcloud;
- Needs constant attention to prevent falling over
- Administration is a mess
- Takes far too long to get used to its ‘little ways’
- Basics like E2EE don’t work
- Sync works when it feels like it
- Updating feels like russian roulette
I run it and mariaDB in docker and they run perfectly when left alone, but everything breaks horribly if I try to do an update. I recently figured out that you need to do updates for NC in steps, and docker (unRAID’s, specifically) defaults to jumping to the latest version. I think I figured out how to specify version now so fingers crossed I won’t destroy it the next time I do updates.
Nextcloud for me too, would break because of updates requiring manual DB updates sometimes, apps would randomly stop working after updating too, or the 2 times it caused total data loss on all my synced devices and the server itself which required a full restore from backups.
After getting rid of it and switching to Syncthing + Filebrowser + SFTPGo for WebDAV I haven’t really had anything break since then (about a year now). Stuff also runs much faster, NC was extremely slow even on good hardware with all their recommended settings for performance.
If Nextcloud “caused total data loss on all my synced devices and the server itself” I would probably do something unsavory to any responsible party I could locate, and take 10 TB of data out of their lousy hide.
Yeah the first time was the time/date bug they had (still have?) where it set the time on every folder and file to 00/00/0000 00:00 across all clients and the server.
Second time was I disabled virtual file support on my laptop so it would sync everything, but instead it went and wiped all the files from the server, because for some reason their sync client assumed the laptop that now had no files on it should be the master source or something.
Their own docs even state that’s how you’re supposed to disable VFS, with no mention that it will wipe your server clean.
It would be absolutely sublime if it worked. Literally every step resulted in an error. EVERY STEP.
No if I have to keep fixing it , it is not worth my time.
I installed owncloud years ago and came to the same conclusion and just got rid of it. I use syncthing nowadays though its not the same thing.
Yep, I’ve adapted all of my setup to syncthing, and never looked back.
Any guidance on this? I looked into Synthing at one time to backup Android phones and got overwhelmed very quickly. I’d love to use it in a similar fashion to NextCloud for syncing between various computers too.
Well, it works in a different way than NextCloud. You don’t have a server, instead you just make a share between your computers and they are all peers.
It takes some getting used to the idea, but it’s actually much simpler than NextCloud.
So if I wanted to sync photos from my phone to the computer, then delete the local copies on my phone to save space, that would not work?
E: But keep the copies on the computer, of course
You would have to move them into some folder you are not syncing.
When I first deployed Nextcloud, it was just like this. Random crashes, lockups, weird user signin issues, slow and clunky.
But one day it just started working and was super stable. I didn’t do anything, still not sure what fixed it lol.
Currently dealing with this nonsense,
and this accompanying nonsense:
Why is your Collabora server on local host? Local host will always point to the device you are trying to access from. You need a publicly accessible URL
“Local host” in this instance refers to my desktop computer where all my super sweet Linux distros are saved. Nextcloud Office, while being an “app” appears to not have any function without the collabora; i.e. there will be no document viewer without the collabora “server” running next to NextCloud.
Or maybe it’s none of that. Coming from a Windows background, running docker is completely foreign.
Collabora need to be accessible at the URL you provide. As a example one might have nextcloud at nc.example.com and Collabora as cb.example.com. you would need to enter cb.example.com as the URL.
The easier way it to use the Nextcloud all in one image or the build in Collabora. Its not going to be as robust or fast but its much simpler.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters CA (SSL) Certificate Authority DNS Domain Name Service/System Git Popular version control system, primarily for code HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web LAMP Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP stack for webhosting LXC Linux Containers PiHole Network-wide ad-blocker (DNS sinkhole) RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC SBC Single-Board Computer SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption nginx Popular HTTP server
10 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 10 acronyms.
[Thread #392 for this sub, first seen 1st Jan 2024, 02:35] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]
To be honest, no. I run in a Truenas Jail, and its stable for me. Just a bit slow for big files sometimes.
I have nextcloud running since nearly 5 years and it never failed once. Only dowtime is when the backup fails and somehow maintenance mode is still enabled (technically not a crash)
For those interested: Running in docker with mariadb in a stack, checking updates with watchtower everyday and pulling from stable, backups with borg(matic)
The very same reason why I gave up on Nextcloud. Too many nasty surprises.
Did you find a self-hosted solution?
I found a service that syncs our calendars self-hosted. That was the only thing that was missing. Can’t remember the name, works flawlessly and without any problems for a number of years now. If you are interested, I’ll look it up next weekend.
Please do! I had spent solid day researching open source CALDAV server/clients to replace Google calendar for my boss. Almost no options on that front.
I have used Baikal for caldav for the server, with davx5 on Android. Was solid. Moved to NC for files, so went ahead with calendar sync on NC too. NC calendar sync has already worked well for me, no hiccups.
The only issue I’ve had with NC is auto upload of photos from my phone. It constantly has conflicts. Otherwise sync of regular files works great.
I want my docs and files on a self-hosted cloud (I can’t seem to get sftp, ftp, or sharing to work on windows 11 even after adding the missing features) , with the ability to at least open the contents without downloading them. I want to stop using google for calendars and notes, and it would be handy to have a self-hosted bulletin board I and my added users could write on.
According to the box, nextcloud does all these things, except that it doesn’t, without practically rewriting the code and somehow re-engineering linux to not be a fucking cunt.
When you are working locally, why don’t you use Samba for storing and sharing of documents?
I’ve tried and tried. It just won’t work. Maybe I need to get a different firewall program. I’m working in Pro, added the features, made the firewall exceptions, have my network setting as “private,” I’ve done everything. The host will be visible on the network, but logins time out or fail altogether.
Since writing my rant, I found HFS, which, though an OLD program, was stupid stupid easy to set up.
I also found Filebrowser, and though the config was way more of an asspain than it should have been, it’s fucking awesome. I’ve even moved on to trying to get HTTPS running for external connections using Win-Acme, but it isn’t going well.
I’ve been running nextcloud since before it was nextcloud. Was owncloud then moved to next cloud.
Another user put it best. It always feels 75% complete. Sync isn’t fast, gives errors that self correct when restarting the all. Most plugins are even more janky or feel super barren.
I wanted to like it so much but I stopped being able to trust most plugins which meant I had dedicated apps for those things and used nextcloud only for file sync.
If you only want file sync then seafile is vastly superior so that’s what I now have.
I’ve just finally and fully spun down a proxmox server I’ve been running and updating as my home lab for six years.
Every major update seemed to break something. Upgrades were always a roll of the dice as to whether it would even boot. It’s probably at least partially my fault for using an old R710 and running docker directly on the OS instead of within a container, but it was still by far my least reliable piece of kit.
The last
apt updateremovedsudo, and I can’t be arsed to rebuild, so I’ve moved the critical bits to a fleet of SBCs. Powering that fucker down was a huge relief.None. I don’t make a habit of keeping “misbehaving” apps around. If I can’t get to the bottom of a specific issue that app is getting the boot from my stable.
Only complaints I have with Nextcloud are that it’s slow and updates suck over the web interface. But apart from that it has been reliable. I’m not running it through Docker. In fact, my installation is so old that the database tables still have an
oc_prefix.
