• Deceptichum@kbin.social
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    And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups

    Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.

    Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.

    “No, we didn’t want to take it, we refused. We said we didn’t want it,” the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.

    “This happened to many, many other women,” Reuben said.

    Source: Ethiopian women in Israel ‘given contraceptive without consent’ - Guardian

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      Can you please edit your comment to reflect your source on this? For the record, I know the source and it’s just straight up factual with Israel outright confirming it happened, but yeah. Just to help prevent some reports. Thanks <3

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            Probably should replace the word sterilized with given contraceptives.

            They’re wildly different things.

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              I am not the person who made the comment. If you have an issue with wording of it, take it up with the commenter. As it stands, it does not violate any community rules.

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                Fair enough sorry - but it’s weird to bother asking for a source and then not caring that the source doesn’t back up the claim being made?

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                  If you have a problem with the content of the message, comment on that comment and take it up with that poster. As it stands this does not violate community rules and requires no moderator action.

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      I think you are missing the point. Jewish people who live outside of Israel can’t be beholden to policies set by Israel. Its also important to note that Jewish is both a religion and a race.

      Don’t let the conflicts in Israel control your treatment of other humans. If we let hate overcome us we could end up with Holocaust type situations (it doesn’t even need to be Jewish hate)

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      Probably should edit your comment from “secretly sterilized” to “allegedly secretly provided contraceptives”.

      Being sterilized and being given contraceptives are wildly different things.

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        I wouldn’t want to lie.

        Israel can be held accountable for its crimes without white washing them, thanks.

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            Yeah, I’m confused. Depo-Provera is a contraceptive that needs to be administered every 3 months to prevent pregnancy. And it doesn’t end a pregnancy, it’s been deemed safe for pregnant women and women who (unlikely but possibly) become pregnant after an injection.

            It also may help prevent some cancers of the reproductive tract.

            Skeptical of the guardians article or the message that people are taking from it.

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            It doesn’t. They’ve thanked you for calling them out on accuracy.

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              Is that in a different post or comment I can’t see? Their original still refers to sterilization.