Substack says it will not remove or demonetize Nazi content::Substack responded to Substackers Against Nazis to say that it does not support Nazi content but will continue to allow it on the platform as long as it doesn’t advocate for violence.
I believe in free speech but that doesn’t mean I’m going to let a fascist yell garbage from my front lawn. Fucking idiotic stance, imo.
Well, fuck you too, Substack.
One Nazi sends a newsletter to nine people who don’t delete it, ten Nazis are in the email chain.
Nazi’s, by default, advocate for violence. You can’t think someone is inherently inferior without promoting violence against them.
What about pets?
Nazi’s are vastly inferior to any of my pets too.
In other words, they will continue to pay Nazis to write Nazi articles.
does not support Nazi content but will continue to allow it on the platform as long as it doesn’t advocate for violence.
How is this possible? It’s like “I’m a vegan but I will eat meat if it does not come from an animal”
Technically the vegan thing is possible if someone figures out a way to make lab-grown meat work. Definitely more realistic than a non-violent Nazi.
It’s more like supporting animal rights, but still eating meat, which most people do… all the time
Never thought the day would come that Nazi content would be allowed.
Sometimes I’m getting a little afraid that the world goes backwards and all the bad-shit from back then is coming back.
As long as Nazi money is exchanged at the same rate as regular money; capitalism is going to keep them around.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
While McKenzie offers no evidence to back these ideas, this tracks with the company’s previous stance on taking a hands-off approach to moderation.
In April, Substack CEO Chris Best appeared on the Decoder podcast and refused to answer moderation questions.
“We’re not going to get into specific ‘would you or won’t you’ content moderation questions” over the issue of overt racism being published on the platform, Best said.
In a 2020 letter from Substack leaders, including Best and McKenzie, the company wrote, “We just disagree with those who would seek to tightly constrain the bounds of acceptable discourse.”
The Atlantic also pointed out an episode of McKenzie’s podcast with a guest, Richard Hanania, who has published racist views under a pseudonym.
McKenzie does, however, cite another Substack author who describes its approach to extremism as one that is “working the best.” What it’s being compared to, or by what measure, is left up to the reader’s interpretation.
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I’m as much of a free speech absolutist as anyone. But speech that causes harm is not free in my interpretation. And clearly it isn’t in Substack’s either as they are removing calls for violence. But calls to direct violence is not the only way that speech can be harmful, and Substack should recognize that. It’s not their responsibility to give a platform to those who want to cause harm to others, either directly or indirectly. I don’t use or read substack but I’m still disappointed that they are only interested in doing the bare minimum. I know why (💵💵💵) but I’m still disappointed.
Supporting freedom of speech
I also fucking hate Nazis, but the definition of nazi-ism has been soo watered down that it doesn’t rven hold the same value jt did
Allowing it a little means it will also grow little by little. Which eventually means it will grow back to its old state.
Which I sure hope any sane person would NOT want that.
People have seen and heard what devastating things happened due to Nazism. In my opinion, it should never be allowed.
That reminds me of this story (not mine).
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
