Quoting ancient history that shows France was already fairly independent back then and that Germany wasn’t shortly after WW2 isn’t a very good argument.
Spain is calling for building a common defense capability because that is the one area where the EU isn’t as independent as it should be in light of how undependable the USA has become. This has already started to change.
Again, what de Gaulle thought in the 1960 of the initial stages does not tell you what the EU is today at all.
The reason the EU did not enter into a trade war at least so far is that economists would tell you it’s still less harmful to just negotiate them to be as low as can be and let them be on one side, they hurt the USA more than the EU. Also note that the EU is in the process of negotiating Mercosur and resolving their issues with Chinese EVs so part of their response is to try to open up more free trade with other countries. Trump trying to press for European territory with them and not sticking to anything agreed upon may change the calculus in the future though.
The thing is that we don’t know what the EU is today. That’s why I ask if we know the moment that the EU broke free. If we don’t know it, how can we be sure that it is?
E.g. if you look at the military, EU command infrastructure is shared with NATO. In every conflict, NATO has right of first refusal. So NATO takes over whenever NATO wants. Who has high command in NATO?
For Hungary we openly discuss the Russian influence and how Russia abuses the requirement for unanimousity. Does the US have a similar influence on any other EU country?
Quoting ancient history that shows France was already fairly independent back then and that Germany wasn’t shortly after WW2 isn’t a very good argument.
Spain is calling for building a common defense capability because that is the one area where the EU isn’t as independent as it should be in light of how undependable the USA has become. This has already started to change.
Have you seen my reply to the other comment. The origin of the EU was the prevention of European independence.
The EU has accepted the American tariffs without a fight. Even if the EU is formally independent, are the people that run it, too?
Again, what de Gaulle thought in the 1960 of the initial stages does not tell you what the EU is today at all.
The reason the EU did not enter into a trade war at least so far is that economists would tell you it’s still less harmful to just negotiate them to be as low as can be and let them be on one side, they hurt the USA more than the EU. Also note that the EU is in the process of negotiating Mercosur and resolving their issues with Chinese EVs so part of their response is to try to open up more free trade with other countries. Trump trying to press for European territory with them and not sticking to anything agreed upon may change the calculus in the future though.
The thing is that we don’t know what the EU is today. That’s why I ask if we know the moment that the EU broke free. If we don’t know it, how can we be sure that it is?
E.g. if you look at the military, EU command infrastructure is shared with NATO. In every conflict, NATO has right of first refusal. So NATO takes over whenever NATO wants. Who has high command in NATO?
For Hungary we openly discuss the Russian influence and how Russia abuses the requirement for unanimousity. Does the US have a similar influence on any other EU country?