The back of a package of Upton’s chorizo seitan says “vegan & plant-based”. I’ve talked with a couple people about this before: plant-based isn’t inherently vegan, but there are only a very select few implausible ways to get food that’s (varying degrees of debatably) vegan and not plant-based. We’re talking, like, accidental roadkill, a hamburger you found in the trash, an animal killed in a dire survival situation… (Edit: Okay, I guess pure salt as a meal also applies.)

So Upton’s, I’m really glad you reassured me that it’s both.

    • Deconceptualist@leminal.space
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      18 hours ago

      Yep. Mushrooms are most assuredly not plants and it drives me crazy when products say “100% plant-based” but include them. Not just the wrong organism, but the wrong entire kingdom! 😖😆 In terms of biological tissue and culinary preparation they’re actually closer to meat. And very useful.

      Oh if you eat bread made with yeast (most of them), that’s fungus too.

      Then there are the good bacterial cultures in yogurt (yes even vegan yogurt) and many fermented products. Those little organisms aren’t plants either.