• Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    I don’t support Russia But i do support China; Mainly because my country has strong economic ties to china; because they are the suppliers and developers of various green energy technologies and because if we need a deterrent for American aggression china will be our best and maybe only hope. Also in my experience Europeans tend to be such bootlickers for America and their imperialism, i always take their opinions with a grain of salt. I think that The Nazi americans could just make a bloodbath out of us in Latin American and the Europeans (the governments and most of the people) would make excuses for them. (looking at how much European governments and industry profited from the Palestinian genocide I feel they would find profit opportunities from united states attacks on Latin America as well!)

    But in the End America’s fascism is starting to project towards Europe. So it’s going to be interesting to see how the European countries react when the violence and intervention that has been directed towards the global south really starts to affect your people; For how bad the american empire is crumbling, what you see now may only be a peek of what’s coming.

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      4 hours ago

      As the other reply said, you are unhappy about the situation in Palestine, but not about the situation in Xinjiang. I think my position is that Israel is wrong to kill Palestinian civilians, Hamas is wrong to kill Israeli civilians, and China is wrong to lock up Uyghurs in internment camps.

      As for the US, sure their imperialism is worrying, whether it’s invading Venezuela or taking Greenland. I don’t think that means Chinese imperialism is any better though - e.g. their desire to take Taiwan, regardless of the wishes of the Taiwanese people.

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      9 hours ago

      I think that The Nazi americans could just make a bloodbath out of us in Latin American and the Europeans (the governments and most of the people) would make excuses for them. (looking at how much European governments and industry profited from the Palestinian genocide

      China is making a bloodbath RIGHT NOW and you’re supporting China. You blame Europe for possibly doing something in a hypothetical future in your mind what China is doing in the real world as we speak.

      Palestinian genocide bad, Uyghur genocide totally fine, despite it being at a MUCH larger scale?

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        6 hours ago

        Well lets put it this way, since according to this data of yours, if it’s true, both sides are committing genocides and both sides are going to war i will support the side that won’t commit genocides towards me. And i will fight the war in the side that won’t turn against me and my people.

        I will also be very wary of propaganda, because in Latin America, propaganda pushed by the united has been used to overturn governments, make excuses for death squads and legitimize governments that kill thousands. Hell we just saw the propaganda machine of the west trying to bury the horrific deaths in Palestine, lying to our faces like we are imbeciles. While they were not only profiting but actively arming the genocide. In UK and Germany the propaganda for the war machine hasn’t even ended, actively arresting protesters; Censorship in big tech social media. And threatening journalists. I feel they could do this to any one of us. They are already aiming for Mexico and Colombia; They already meddled in the elections of Chile and Argentina. Of course i will side with the country that takes up my cause and not the counties that encourages these aggressions.

        Then to make things worse; I’ve been noticing that the Far right is taking a strong foothold in europe: The AfD is gaining a lot of ground in Germany and a lot of German people I’ve talked with seem to agree with their maxims. There is Meloni in Italy; An open crony for trump; Spain might have a right wing victory as well, and even Starmer’s Labor party in England has been making excuses for mass murder. And they might get an even more right wing government next. All of those people don’t sound like either “allies” or “civilized” and things are just keep getting worse.

        So i will also take with a grain of salt anything that comes from state sponsored news sources from america and it’s vassal states in europe. Especially if there is a hint of war intent behind their words.

        But wait there is more! This push towards fascism in the west could be the last gasps of a collapsing neoliberal system. Violence could potentially be directed inward as governments see their economies crumble, as corporations gain so much power they turn into modern feudal houses and the impossibility to sustain these contradictions will make governments turn more oppressive to their own people. A lot of countries might collapse without war, but crumble under dying economies and aging infrastructure. And at some time in the future we will need to revaluate our political systems as a whole and establish real mechanisms to protect international law, because the current ones are a laughable joke as we’ve seen.

        Most importantly. The west will need to learn to share a multipolar world. And that might not be so bad. People will finally have choices to live their lives. Maybe we could have a little peace.