See we agree with everything, but using the word disabilities, which is a negative term, no getting around that. Just basic English language, dis, without or another negative word & obviously abilities, what one can do. Instead Challenges only means we have things that challenge us, that can be over come.
is disclosure an inherently negative term, just because it uses the prefix “dis”, even though it’s about being honest & making something known?
disabilities and challenges aren’t interchangeable. generally speaking, someone can’t “overcome” not seeing or not being able to walk. they might advocate for better accessibility by having more braille in public spaces, or for having more curb cuts for better wheelchair access, but those problems are societal, not individual.
ultimately, ableism is something for society to overcome, not disabled individuals. that “challenge” lies with society in general.
and again, even if we lived in a perfect society where ableism didn’t exist & accommodations were free & plentiful: people’s disabilities still exist, they haven’t been “overcome”.
I hear where coming from & is a good example, but that word is applied to someone’s mind-body.
the fact that you are saying GENERALLY speaking is the answer.
Actually, BLANK yeah, people with such challenges all the time find new & sometimes better ways to do things people stupidly label them with a disability for.
this is a form of ableism called “inspiration porn”. it frames disability as something to overcome, which ends up being particularly crushing when disabled people have internalised this and despite their best efforts, continue to be disabled because it’s a normal facet of the human experience.
also, you might not be aware of this, but “stupid” / “stupidly” and phrasing along those lines are ableist, and have a long history of being used against people with intellectual disabilities, and of being used to insult people via that comparison to disability. it’s essentially placing people in a hierarchy of “worthiness” based on intelligence.
i don’t mean any of this as an attack, btw, i believe you mean well. however, your time might be better spent focusing on getting rid of ableism in society, rather than telling disabled people to not use the word disabled.
As a lifelong & since borth person with Short & Long Term Memory & Language Processing Challenges, SLD degreed & many certifications in ESE, I probably know what you are talking better than you.
I have never really thought about the use of stupidity before, but at the same time, I time one can be stupid only because they are not using their minds on that topic, not because of any challenge their minds have. Thank you, though.
With that being said & assuming you were right, what word could we use instead?
I am not taking offense, except using Wikipedia as a source for anything!
I probably know what you are talking better than you.
if you know better than resorting to inspiration porn and using ableist terms, why are you doing that?
what word could we use instead?
it depends. if you’re trying to insult someone, many many of the terms available will be rooted in disability in some way. hatred of disability is very deeply embedded into both the english language and english-speaking society at large.
however, if you don’t agree with or don’t like what someone’s saying, you can just say so. if you think what someone is doing is terrible and ill-advised, you can just say so. the result is clear communication and not perpetuating ableism, a win-win!
I am done with this, wasting my time with conveniently nice & calm, but PR spinning giving someone different perspective on their challenges, it into Ablism. I am super nice about that insulting Ablism comments, when I should not been.
See we agree with everything, but using the word disabilities, which is a negative term, no getting around that. Just basic English language, dis, without or another negative word & obviously abilities, what one can do. Instead Challenges only means we have things that challenge us, that can be over come.
is disclosure an inherently negative term, just because it uses the prefix “dis”, even though it’s about being honest & making something known?
disabilities and challenges aren’t interchangeable. generally speaking, someone can’t “overcome” not seeing or not being able to walk. they might advocate for better accessibility by having more braille in public spaces, or for having more curb cuts for better wheelchair access, but those problems are societal, not individual.
ultimately, ableism is something for society to overcome, not disabled individuals. that “challenge” lies with society in general.
and again, even if we lived in a perfect society where ableism didn’t exist & accommodations were free & plentiful: people’s disabilities still exist, they haven’t been “overcome”.
I hear where coming from & is a good example, but that word is applied to someone’s mind-body. the fact that you are saying GENERALLY speaking is the answer.
Actually, BLANK yeah, people with such challenges all the time find new & sometimes better ways to do things people stupidly label them with a disability for.
this is a form of ableism called “inspiration porn”. it frames disability as something to overcome, which ends up being particularly crushing when disabled people have internalised this and despite their best efforts, continue to be disabled because it’s a normal facet of the human experience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
also, you might not be aware of this, but “stupid” / “stupidly” and phrasing along those lines are ableist, and have a long history of being used against people with intellectual disabilities, and of being used to insult people via that comparison to disability. it’s essentially placing people in a hierarchy of “worthiness” based on intelligence.
i don’t mean any of this as an attack, btw, i believe you mean well. however, your time might be better spent focusing on getting rid of ableism in society, rather than telling disabled people to not use the word disabled.
As a lifelong & since borth person with Short & Long Term Memory & Language Processing Challenges, SLD degreed & many certifications in ESE, I probably know what you are talking better than you.
I have never really thought about the use of stupidity before, but at the same time, I time one can be stupid only because they are not using their minds on that topic, not because of any challenge their minds have. Thank you, though. With that being said & assuming you were right, what word could we use instead?
I am not taking offense, except using Wikipedia as a source for anything!
if you know better than resorting to inspiration porn and using ableist terms, why are you doing that?
it depends. if you’re trying to insult someone, many many of the terms available will be rooted in disability in some way. hatred of disability is very deeply embedded into both the english language and english-speaking society at large.
however, if you don’t agree with or don’t like what someone’s saying, you can just say so. if you think what someone is doing is terrible and ill-advised, you can just say so. the result is clear communication and not perpetuating ableism, a win-win!
That is you putting a negative to what is not there, you have a habit of that, where I do not.
I am done with this, wasting my time with conveniently nice & calm, but PR spinning giving someone different perspective on their challenges, it into Ablism. I am super nice about that insulting Ablism comments, when I should not been.