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  • GuyFawkes@midwest.social
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    As far as I’m concerned contracts under duress are null and void. The tribe should lie cheat steal to get their people back and then flip ICE the bird.

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      Uhh. Not sure if you’re intentionally referencing how their ancestors got genocided but if not may be good to be aware before saying something like this in public .

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        I’m aware of the U.S. Government’s historically shitty treatment of Native Americans and have no problem with indigenous people turning it back on them.

        If that’s not what you mean please let me know because I’d rather NOT stick my foot in my mouth if at all possible! 😁

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          Im not seeing an issue with the spirit of your post, maybe the other poster can clarify.

          I would take a beat to reflect on the fact that not all American Indians are necessarily radicalized against the US. Doesn’t mean a radical position is incorrect, but it’s important to avoid a “white savior” trope or something like that (not saying youre doing this by posting on Lemmy, but in a different context).

          It could come off like “yeah they should put their bodies on the line, and fight for what’s right!”, but if youre gonna talk like that it’s important that youre out there with or even in front of them doing the same thing. Once again I don’t think a random comment online is all that serious, but I think you and I have the same energy so I’m just thinking it through. We obviously dont want to harm or offend our comrades with the way we discuss these things!

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      You can turn against settlerism and stand with your indigenous neighbors! It doesn’t have to be “we did this”. It can instead be “we [American Indians and anti-colonial non-Indians] stand together against the efforts of the United States to subjugate us and the land and resources we live on!”

      Reading the book “Custer Dies for Your Sins” after I saw it featured in the Smithsonian really helped get my head straight.

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        Thank you for the recommendation, I’ll check it out! In my youth I was involved in a program called Indian Guides, it was a bit like boy scouts, except Native American themed. We learned a lot about Native culture and traditions, from the local tribes themselves, and participated in some of their ceremonies, or more likely they were ceremonies for our group but regardless they were very beautiful and grounding. Those experiences as a child had a pretty large influence on me as far as seeking a balance with nature and respecting life, and respecting the Natives themselves and their culture and knowledge.

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          Hell yeah! I think it’s incredibly important to understand the indigenous history of our local regions if we want to be good neighbors and allies to them. Same themes as always wherever you are in North America (disease wipes them out, genocide via killings and removals etc…), but being able to name names and dates helps bring it in close.

          Maybe the mayor of your city was complicit ! Or maybe there was a town near you that had a good relationship with a local tribe! In my area there was a lake that was an important food source that was drained to become farmland. Fortunately it is now being restored.

          From my reading, white settlers were not really even unwelcome, the people were excited to tap into the wealth and opportunity the settlers were bringing with them. The fact that they have been excluded from that since the beginning is disgusting. I don’t think it is too late to correct the exploitation of indigenous people and land, and if we can build a society/cultures capable of that, most other things (regarding economic equity) will fall into place alongside it.