• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Some things to consider, for those interested in objectivity:

    • We have basically no background info on Roy Brown (the homeless guy), no idea about prior convictions etc. that may have influenced the sentencing. Bizarrely, the actual crime on the books in Louisiana, where he committed it, has a massive sentencing range, of 3 to 40 years. This seems to be the one and only primary source for this info at all. Also, his was a violent crime,[1] which tend to carry harsher sentences compared to non-violent, regardless of the type of crime.
    • Allen took one of those ‘help us fry the bigger fish and we’ll go easy on you’[2] deals from investigators, and as a result, prosecutors weren’t even seeking anything close to 15 years. Said bigger fish got 30 years.
    • The laws, including sentencing minimums etc., aren’t exactly the same in Virginia (Allen) and Lousiana (Brown).

    P.S. The Snopes article on this is 15 years old, so imagine the age of the actual screenshot.


    1. Brown admitted walking up to a teller with one of his hands under his jacket and telling her it was a “stickup.”

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    2. Mitigating factors in Allen’s sentencing were the fact that the fraud was already underway when he became CEO of TBW in 2003, that his crime was a non-violent one, and that Allen was one of six persons who received credit on their sentences for cooperating with investigators and testifying against Farkas, the mastermind of the fraud scheme. (Farkas himself was sentenced to thirty years in prison.)

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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      4 days ago

      Also, his was a violent crime

      The violent crime he committed according to a liberal:

      Brown admitted walking up to a teller with one of his hands under his jacket and telling her it was a “stickup.”

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        4 days ago

        Threatening to shoot and kill someone if they don’t give you what you want, even if the victim is not aware you’re not actually armed, definitely counts, don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

        Also, I quoted that exact line in my own comment, why are you bringing that up in your reply as if it’s information I concealed/withheld or something?

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          4 days ago

          It only counts only in a bullshit legal system way, of which no normal person should give the time of day too.

          Poverty and stolen working class money actually kills people, finger guns do not.

          To even pretend it is the other way around is the most vile fucking liberal take imaginable.

    • burritosdontexist2@lemmy.world
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      Said bigger fish got 30 years.

      Here’s your tomato tomato. I’m not hugely familiar with crimlaw (everyone in the family did civil if they were in legal so those are the proceedings I’m familiar with) but the few criminal proceedings I followed closely, they’d pick one defendant and get all the others to turn on them. If you’d flip, you’d get 2 years for conspiracy. If you didn’t, you’d get 25 for wasting the court’s time.