• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    5 hours ago

    Look, the US is fucked up and an evil country, everyone can agree on that

    But why in the everlasting hell do you all act as if China is a savior, as if China can do no wrong?

    China is the fucking same plus worse

    Same goes for Russia

    All those three are evil empires that should be ALL dismantled into loads of smaller countries

    It doesn’t matter what the country pretends to want to be, as soon as it gets too powerful you always end up with some asshole dictator, whether they’re called Putin (need a good nickname for him, getting tired of having to write that name every time), Cheeto, or pooh Bear. These so called leaders should all hang for the crimes they’ve committed

    So with that said, why the China worship, why the pretence they China can do no wrong? This is literally “US propaganda baaaad, China propaganda goooood”

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      China can do wrong, though. I wish they were stronger when it came to foreign policy, and they are lagging in queer rights. However, both the ideas that China is imperialist and that China is worse than the US Empire are absurd.

      The US Empire plunders the global south, expropriating vast amounts of resources and super-exploiting foreign labor, while China engages in mutual cooperation and win-win development. Countries imperialized by the US are underdeveloped, while countries in BRI have rapid development. The US has hundreds of overseas millitary bases, and the PRC has no more than 3. The US Empire is kidnapping leaders and threatening to annex Greenland, while China is engaging in mutual trade.

      It doesn’t matter what the country pretends to want to be, as soon as it gets too powerful you always end up with some asshole dictator

      This doesn’t logically follow. There’s nothing about size of country that correlates to having dictators, Cuba under Batista was small but dictatorial, while China is a democracy with 1.4 billion people. The vast majority of Chinese citizens believe the government represents their interests:

      Russia couldn’t be as bad as the US Empire even if it tried, as it lacks the ability to do so. China is a socialist country. The US is the world hegemon and a dying empire. Entirely different scales of evil here.

      pooh Bear

      I don’t see why it’s funny to use a yellow bear to describe a Chinese man.

      So with that said, why the China worship, why the pretence they China can do no wrong? This is literally “US propaganda baaaad, China propaganda goooood”

      Nobody believes China can do no wrong or that Chinese propaganda is good. If your entire argument relies on strawmen, then it’s not really anything useful.

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      5 hours ago

      This is what happens when instead of material analysis you default to mainstream media to be honest about its geopolitical enemies.

      No one is saying we’ll like it if China does bad shit in other countries, but they haven’t invaded anywhere in decades even when provoked. Meanwhile the US bombs a few countries a year, and launches a full on invasion every few years, not to mention the unilateral illegal sanctions they impose which kill over half a million people every year. When China does nearly a tiny fraction of that we can talk. In the meantime you’re just repeating western propaganda. China develops our countries, the US coups or invades them.

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      5 hours ago

      Their first emperor is a fucking dragon.

      Your first president is an ungrateful British colonist.

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      4 hours ago

      China gets mad praise on Lemmy as long as you say US bad in the same sentence