That is a concept I struggle with, although I totally agree with you. But how do eliminate MAGA without resorting to fascism yourself? To be clear, MAGA needs to be eliminated. Just don’t know how.
MAGA thrives because there’s nothing in place to hold them accountable.
These people only understand violence and intimidation. Things like institutional power and limits mean nothing to them. This is why they ignore the courts, the constitution, the law, international organizations, national agencies, and so on. To them, democracy, rule of law, checks and balances aren’t principles to live by and uphold, to them they’re obstacles to absolute power. That’s why they seethe when an institution works as intended and cheer when they get a corrupt one to manipulate.
If we had true accountability, they would never see the light of day. Opposition in a democracy is a chain that goes from the bottom, and all the links need to work together as one. It goes something like this:
It starts with the people. The people need to believe in democracy in order to act, because democracy doesn’t work when people aren’t actively involved in government.
When the people are involved, they need to create groups that organize resistance movements. These movements need to be very principled, have specific demands, and have specific targets/goals in order to mobilize people.
Once the people are mobilized, they carry out strikes, protests, demonstrations, and other acts of civil disobedience in order to apply pressure on the media and other NGOs as well as local and state politicians to act on their behalf.
The local and state politicians on board will then apply pressure on their national representatives, and the ones that don’t will be voted out and replaced. Same for goes for media and other orgs, if they’re not on board then they will be boycotted.
Likewise, the national representatives on board will apply pressure on their colleagues to act, and the ones who don’t need to be replaced.
Once you have a majority of the national representatives feeling genuine fear of losing their jobs or otherwise from the public, then they will start acting accordingly in order to save their own asses. They will turn to the law, the courts, institutions, and checks balances to do their jobs.
During every step, it is absolutely crucial that standards are clearly defined and upheld. If the people see bad actors in their midst, they need to call them out. If one of their own commits a crime, then they need to be condemned and kicked out. If a local, state, or national politician is defying the people, they need to be voted out. If they broke the law then they need to face consequences. If they defy the law, then the people needs to send those specific individuals a message that they are not untouchable. That’s how democracy is supposed to work. Each generations has to actively work to defend it and ensure that the next generation does the same.
So when the next time a MAGA like group forms and tries to take power, they’re shutdown at every avenue. They’re rejected by the people, the opposition, the states, the courts, the media, non profits, celebrities, and even their own party. Anyone who endorses such groups needs to ostracized and the leaders of the next MAGA like group need to be jailed if they attempt to undermine democracy or the law.
This what needs to happen now, but unfortunately the people just don’t care. Society’s apathy is what sleep walked us into fascism, and we need to wake up if we want to get rid of it.
They are a proven, unapologetic, and ongoing National Security Threat, who have openly, demonstrably engaged in treason, sedition, insurrection, terrorism, extortion, espionage, corruption, pedophilia, murder, and more. We have all seen numerous examples of every one of those crimes.
All politicians take an oath to protect America from national security threats, foreign or domestic, and MAGA definitely falls under the category of domestic threat. Why shouldn’t an organization like that be prohibited from existing, recruiting, and promoting?
That is a concept I struggle with, although I totally agree with you. But how do eliminate MAGA without resorting to fascism yourself? To be clear, MAGA needs to be eliminated. Just don’t know how.
MAGA thrives because there’s nothing in place to hold them accountable.
These people only understand violence and intimidation. Things like institutional power and limits mean nothing to them. This is why they ignore the courts, the constitution, the law, international organizations, national agencies, and so on. To them, democracy, rule of law, checks and balances aren’t principles to live by and uphold, to them they’re obstacles to absolute power. That’s why they seethe when an institution works as intended and cheer when they get a corrupt one to manipulate.
If we had true accountability, they would never see the light of day. Opposition in a democracy is a chain that goes from the bottom, and all the links need to work together as one. It goes something like this:
During every step, it is absolutely crucial that standards are clearly defined and upheld. If the people see bad actors in their midst, they need to call them out. If one of their own commits a crime, then they need to be condemned and kicked out. If a local, state, or national politician is defying the people, they need to be voted out. If they broke the law then they need to face consequences. If they defy the law, then the people needs to send those specific individuals a message that they are not untouchable. That’s how democracy is supposed to work. Each generations has to actively work to defend it and ensure that the next generation does the same.
So when the next time a MAGA like group forms and tries to take power, they’re shutdown at every avenue. They’re rejected by the people, the opposition, the states, the courts, the media, non profits, celebrities, and even their own party. Anyone who endorses such groups needs to ostracized and the leaders of the next MAGA like group need to be jailed if they attempt to undermine democracy or the law.
This what needs to happen now, but unfortunately the people just don’t care. Society’s apathy is what sleep walked us into fascism, and we need to wake up if we want to get rid of it.
Tolerance is a social contract. Those who would not grant it to others are not protected by it.
We don’t have to tolerate the intolerant.
They are a proven, unapologetic, and ongoing National Security Threat, who have openly, demonstrably engaged in treason, sedition, insurrection, terrorism, extortion, espionage, corruption, pedophilia, murder, and more. We have all seen numerous examples of every one of those crimes.
All politicians take an oath to protect America from national security threats, foreign or domestic, and MAGA definitely falls under the category of domestic threat. Why shouldn’t an organization like that be prohibited from existing, recruiting, and promoting?
I don’t disagree. But I am talking about the millions of mouth breathers that lap up everything that guy spills. The voters. Do we just round ‘em up?
Reconstruction is going to be painful.
No, but we can deal with their leaders, and prohibit MAGA as a National Security Threat,.for starters.
By beating them to a pulp Mussolini style