A comic doesn’t show individuals, it shows a vision of the world. If I draw 1000 nice soldiers, it’s not a 1000 individuals, I’m pushing the vibe that soldiers are nice.
But the nice ones are the exception, so if you specifically show nice ones (is it possi le to be nice while killing people?), it is a choice to represent reality as such.
Things like that convey a message, and let’s face it, I doubt that the author of this comic is anti-military.
You can say that murder is bad. You can also say that it is necessary.
Allowing murder to be good is allowing opinions to shift reality, and this is how people supporting Trump can think that murder is generally wrong, but murdering trans or black people or leftists is acceptable. Once you start making exceptions based on opinions, everything unfolds.
The last hope for America is drawing in the average liberal voter who is tuned out and doesn’t care about social issues or whatever things our military has done or not done in the past.
I would love people to spend a little time reading the exit polling from 2024, where they asked people why they voted the way they did. Most answers were completely nonsensical, they were Obama voters, Bernie supporters, voting for Trump because they had no idea what he represented and just wanted to 'try something new" and if you’re screaming right now “we already had a Trump term, what’s wrong with them?” you’re just not a median voter who has 2 hours of free time on Sunday night after the game to browse Tiktok or Facebook for memes and get all their political knowledge there, and barely paid attention to politics before the price of eggs hit a dollar a piece.
If you try to tell these people “America bad” and explain all the ills of the military, they will reject you because they’re not involved, they’re consuming propaganda all day all the time anyway, and they don’t know who to blame their struggle on. The desperate need for Liberal america to preserve stability and comfort is the only remaining check or balance in the US, and if that waivers, if that class of overworked and uninvolved people start actually getting involved, it will push the whole boat back on course. We NEED cartoons like this because it appeals to the people the left has broadly hated for decades and it’s cost us dearly… people who have a vision, even if delusional, for a better America.
Right, and this is Lemmy. I am not sure this is exactly the facebook browsing demographic.
people who have a vision, even if delusional, for a better America.
Knowing the perspective of american liberals is perfectly fine and normal, but that’s not a call to cater to delusion. Delusional visions are not helping.
I disagree, our species largely lives in a state of some kind of delusion or willful ignorance, even you and me.
Learning to understand and use people’s desire to be deluded can move mountains. I mean, the bad guys are doing it and have literally won everything, while we’ve lost everything. Tell me again there’s no lesson to learn here.
I wouldn’t use the word ‘delusion’ then. Delusions are predicated on defying incontrovertible proof of falsehood.
They are a defense mechanism. The desire to be deluded is a fear response. Knowing you’re dealing with fear is one thing, but I think this has to be treated more like addiction intervention than some kind of puppet mastery.
Ah yes, the overflowing empathy of the military.
This comic is show individual solders who can be pretty diverse. I know a few combat vets who ended up being good people.
A comic doesn’t show individuals, it shows a vision of the world. If I draw 1000 nice soldiers, it’s not a 1000 individuals, I’m pushing the vibe that soldiers are nice.
But the nice ones are the exception, so if you specifically show nice ones (is it possi le to be nice while killing people?), it is a choice to represent reality as such.
Things like that convey a message, and let’s face it, I doubt that the author of this comic is anti-military.
It is possible to be nice and kill people. Killing people stopped the nazis and freed slaves. Violence is not inherently good or bad its just a tool.
The US military finished killing Nazis in 1945. So that’s a good 80 years they’ve spent killing for evil.
You can say that murder is bad. You can also say that it is necessary.
Allowing murder to be good is allowing opinions to shift reality, and this is how people supporting Trump can think that murder is generally wrong, but murdering trans or black people or leftists is acceptable. Once you start making exceptions based on opinions, everything unfolds.
The last hope for America is drawing in the average liberal voter who is tuned out and doesn’t care about social issues or whatever things our military has done or not done in the past.
I would love people to spend a little time reading the exit polling from 2024, where they asked people why they voted the way they did. Most answers were completely nonsensical, they were Obama voters, Bernie supporters, voting for Trump because they had no idea what he represented and just wanted to 'try something new" and if you’re screaming right now “we already had a Trump term, what’s wrong with them?” you’re just not a median voter who has 2 hours of free time on Sunday night after the game to browse Tiktok or Facebook for memes and get all their political knowledge there, and barely paid attention to politics before the price of eggs hit a dollar a piece.
If you try to tell these people “America bad” and explain all the ills of the military, they will reject you because they’re not involved, they’re consuming propaganda all day all the time anyway, and they don’t know who to blame their struggle on. The desperate need for Liberal america to preserve stability and comfort is the only remaining check or balance in the US, and if that waivers, if that class of overworked and uninvolved people start actually getting involved, it will push the whole boat back on course. We NEED cartoons like this because it appeals to the people the left has broadly hated for decades and it’s cost us dearly… people who have a vision, even if delusional, for a better America.
Right, and this is Lemmy. I am not sure this is exactly the facebook browsing demographic.
Knowing the perspective of american liberals is perfectly fine and normal, but that’s not a call to cater to delusion. Delusional visions are not helping.
I disagree, our species largely lives in a state of some kind of delusion or willful ignorance, even you and me.
Learning to understand and use people’s desire to be deluded can move mountains. I mean, the bad guys are doing it and have literally won everything, while we’ve lost everything. Tell me again there’s no lesson to learn here.
I wouldn’t use the word ‘delusion’ then. Delusions are predicated on defying incontrovertible proof of falsehood.
They are a defense mechanism. The desire to be deluded is a fear response. Knowing you’re dealing with fear is one thing, but I think this has to be treated more like addiction intervention than some kind of puppet mastery.
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