people jerk off the images on the internet. not sure if that’s ‘speech’, but it’s just how it is. pretty much anything can be ‘sexualized’ in that way.
it’s just the context of who is doing the jerking off and to what they are jerking off you find objectionable.
if a bunch of middle aged women made a sub jacking off to teenage boys would you find that equally as objectionable? or is only the fact it was men jacking off to pictures of teenage girls you find upsetting and immoral?
what if the images were fantasy/ai/drawn?
lots of people jack off to things i would be disgusted by, but i’m not sure it’s my place to tell them to stop doing it. anymore than it is my place to tell people what to think, what to feel, how to behave, etc. because i certain don’t agree with a lot of other people’s behaviours, actions, and speech, sexual or not.
As I said - nobody needs children on the internet.
I used to be young on the internet, I did a lot of stupid shit, my peers did a lot of stupid shit. Nowadays you have billions of dollars forcing shit on vulnerable people in algos and content machines, while recording any interaction ever. Nothing for developing minds.
And guess what, if no young people entered the internet, they would not be relying on it for communications or fun, and perheps found other, more healthy options.
Adding tech for the sake of it is going backwards in most regards. Usually losing privacy and agency.
And that is not OK, and I will not stand idly looking at this shit happening. I will always advise to selfhost everything, and use open-source software when dealing with tech.
It’s better to ignore the closed down technology than to let it take over you.
people jerk off the images on the internet. not sure if that’s ‘speech’, but it’s just how it is. pretty much anything can be ‘sexualized’ in that way.
it’s just the context of who is doing the jerking off and to what they are jerking off you find objectionable.
if a bunch of middle aged women made a sub jacking off to teenage boys would you find that equally as objectionable? or is only the fact it was men jacking off to pictures of teenage girls you find upsetting and immoral?
what if the images were fantasy/ai/drawn?
lots of people jack off to things i would be disgusted by, but i’m not sure it’s my place to tell them to stop doing it. anymore than it is my place to tell people what to think, what to feel, how to behave, etc. because i certain don’t agree with a lot of other people’s behaviours, actions, and speech, sexual or not.
YES.
It’s not that hard to grasp.
Leave anything <18yo outside the internet.
I don’t think we need to have any children here. We should educate them about it, but maybe not let them participate.
AI must be trained on something to create images, so AI should not be trained on any children content, either.
Draw whatever the fuck you want.
But leave children to be children. Until they hit 18, then it’s up to them.
So ban all pictures of anyone under 18 on the internet?
You realize the biggest objectors of that, would be under 18s themselves?
I mean you’re consistent, but that isn’t really pragmatically possible.
As I said - nobody needs children on the internet.
I used to be young on the internet, I did a lot of stupid shit, my peers did a lot of stupid shit. Nowadays you have billions of dollars forcing shit on vulnerable people in algos and content machines, while recording any interaction ever. Nothing for developing minds.
And guess what, if no young people entered the internet, they would not be relying on it for communications or fun, and perheps found other, more healthy options.
OK, well should we ban the eldery too? they are a vulnerable group.
Internet is only for people, what, 18-65?
You know, why not?
The internet should be an alternative, not a default.
that’s not how technology works.
should we go back to writing letters in the mail? no, nobody wants ot do that and nobody would do that.
The cat is out of the bag, there is no going back. We are going forward to having wearable tech and chips in our brains.
Going forward is such a weird statement.
Adding tech for the sake of it is going backwards in most regards. Usually losing privacy and agency.
And that is not OK, and I will not stand idly looking at this shit happening. I will always advise to selfhost everything, and use open-source software when dealing with tech.
It’s better to ignore the closed down technology than to let it take over you.
You can do what you want. Nobody is forcing you to do anything man.
But other people are not you. They don’t care about what you care about.