Isn’t a “click” just physically making two connectors touch so that a circuit is made to send the signal of an action? There doesn’t have to be any noise associated does there?

For example, if we used 2 springs, one to hold up the button and another to make the contact with the circuit, the click would be silent. Or maybe something already exists that I can swap out into my mouse?

  • N.E.P.T.R@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 hours ago

    I feel like I have used a couple mouses in my life that don’t or barely make a audible click. The important part of the click feedback to my is their being a little resistance and then it fully deforms after getting past a threshold. The click does not need to be audible.

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    Specifically for the extra buttons on the sides, I would prefer having gamepad-like switches, since the normal clicky ones don’t seem to do well over there.

    While an audible click is not really necessary for switches, I consider it important to at least be able to feel it on my finger. Hence the word “tactile”.

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    19 hours ago

    I try to click on something and it doesn’t react.

    Is this because I failed to execute the click (has happened, especially on laptop touchpads), or because the site is unresponsive/buggy?

    As a person not too familiar with hardware or what goes into mouse creation, I have always taken the “click” sound as something that can only happen when I actually successfully execute the click. That I made those two connectors touch. (Of course, the OS might drop it and the software part does not work, but I do take it as I made all the physical things that need to happen to make a click happen.) So if I get to hear the “click” on a mouse I know for sure if I clicked or not, if it’s human error or not in the problem I posed. If I don’t I’m going to be clicking a lot more times to ensure I got a real click through, because I am not sure if I actually managed to click.

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    1 day ago

    Physical feedback is an important part of the user experience. There’s no hard requirement, it just makes the device feel better to use

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    1 day ago

    Yeah you are right. There are mice that don’t “click”. But they feel aweful.

    I don’t think there is something you could just easily swap, but I’m not sure.

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      8 hours ago

      Doesn’t have to sound awful though if done right - I switched from Logi MX3 to MX4 mouse and it surprised me as it doesn’t have an audible click whole still having some noticeable feedback to it.

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      Exactly this. People generally prefer tactile feedback, and it increases how well people use tools. That is also why most people that have used mechanical keyboards prefer them to membrane. The noise is just a byproduct of the tactile click.

      Fun example of this is the F-16 fighter jet. It was the first US fighter jet that was fly by wire. Since there was no mechanical linkage, the flight stick didn’t need to move to function, so when it was first built the flight stick was immobile and simply registered direction and pressure. Pilots hated it, and said it made flying more difficult, so the stick was modified to move despite there being no mechanical or engineering need for it to do so.

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        9 hours ago

        tactile feedback is for your finger to feel, as per the name, and doesn’t necessarily make an audible click.

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          I’m aware of what tactile feedback is. The audible click is generally a byproduct of the mechanism that creates the tactile click. I don’t know that I’ve ever used a keyboard or mouse that has a satisfying clicky feel without some noise accompanying it. You can definitely do things to make them quieter though.

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    1 day ago

    Button or switches need to be open or closed. A spring strong enough to force the button to switch when pushed is used because if you were to push it down and let the contacts touch slowly, the contacts would bounce and you’d get multiple clicks with a single press (undesirable). Mice tend to have very little button travel which doesn’t lend itself well to using other kinds of switches which allow smoother / quieter switches.

    Some quieter or less clicky switches probably do exist but its at the tradeoff of greater travel distance, mushy feeling or double clicking. I recall a mouse with rubber dome buttons that was discontinued because it feels like crap ans no one bought it