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noumenon@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

E.U. and South America to Form Free-Trade Zone With 700 Million People

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  • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Well, usa seems to want to be alone right now so…

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    We (the uk) could have had a piece of this pie if it wasn’t for racists

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      The UK would have been always a Trojan horse within the EU, better this way.

    • Frozentea725@feddit.uk
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      But… Sovereignty… Look at us standing on our own, in a club no one else wants to join.

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      Critics argued that South American producers did not meet European standards on pesticides, deforestation, animal treatment and worker rights. Farmers, particularly chicken and beef producers, have been worried that cheap imports would undercut their livelihoods.

      Yeah, what a piece of shit pie to miss out on. Remainers are fucking delusional at this point.

      • d00ery@lemmy.world
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        We can have USA chicken instead, much better quality. /S

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          American organic chicken is just as good as EU organic chicken.

          Edit. Perhaps Google OMRI?

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            Apologies if the sources aren’t great or particularly up-to-date but it looks to me like organic farms account for just 9% of chicken farms in USA. Add to that the practice of chlorine washing, so I find it hard to see the benefits.

            https://www.lilsipper.com/97-of-chicken-in-the-usa-is-bleached-here-are-the-brands-thats-not-not-bleaching-our-chicken/

            No doubt the USDA is a hotbed of democrat demons intent on selling out the USA

            https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/AgCensus/2022/Full_Report/Volume_1,_Chapter_1_US/st99_1_030_031.pdf

            https://esmis.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/release-files/zg64tk92g/2z10z137s/bn99bh97r/cenorg22.pdf

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              EU chicken accounts for less than 5%…

              They aren’t chlorine washing organic birds, just the ones that are stocked too densely.

              • d00ery@lemmy.world
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                Do you have a source for the chlorine statement?

                • deHaga@feddit.uk
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                  https://www.soilassociation.org/causes-campaigns/top-10-risks-from-a-uk-us-trade-deal/what-is-chlorinated-chicken/

      • Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
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        Please enlighten us, how has brexit been of any benefit to us?

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          Got us out of the environmental disaster that is the corrupt CAP. It takes the largest share of the budget and just rewards rich landowners to pollute

          The EU has lowered green standards on farming since Brexit, while we’ve increased ours. That delta is the benefit.

          Restored common law to primacy. Common law is more flexible and better for regulating innovation. Roman civil law is prescriptive and dull.

          • Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
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            Erm…

            https://ieep.uk/news/news-uk-falling-behind-eu-on-environmental-regulation-warns-new-ieepuk-report/

            Looks like we arent keeping up woth EU standards.

            And what new laws are there that we are benefitting from?

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              The report finds that while the UK has not significantly weakened its environmental standards since Brexit, it has failed to keep pace with the EU’s ambitious agenda. The divergence is largely passive – or “divergence by default” – as the EU moves ahead with new laws on issues ranging from air pollution and chemicals to nature restoration and circular economy.

              Seems fairly balanced

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              Nice blog post.

              Meanwhile

              https://www.pan-europe.info/press-releases/2025/12/eu-commission-retreats-worst-plan-still-opens-door-unlimited-pesticide

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                Following this backlash and intense internal negotiations, the Commission scaled back its approach in the proposal presented today. Targeted re-assessment would now be required for substances where uncertainties or data gaps have emerged from their risk assessment

                Are you suggesting that rechecking the data and risks of pesticides is wrong?

                • deHaga@feddit.uk
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                  I’m suggesting that claiming you are reducing pesticides when all that’s happened is the toxicity has increased is the worst kind of greenwashing

                  https://www.organicseurope.bio/news/ifoam-organics-europe-and-european-citizens-initiative-condemn-fake-pesticide-reduction/

          • ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Source: trust me bro

            https://www.standrewslawreview.com/post/brexit-s-detrimental-impact-on-environmental-law-and-protection-in-the-uk

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              The point is we can make new laws that suit a small island farming industry, not the monoculture Bayer shite.

              The EU actually weakened their rules, twice now. Your source talks about possible outcomes, not policy change.

              https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/eu-weaken-more-environment-reporting-rules-draft-document-shows-2025-12-08/

              • d00ery@lemmy.world
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                Did the big Boris make lots of promises and then fail to deliver whilst retiring on his nice state pension, book deals, and speaking opportunities.

                If only a Tory govt had been given a chance to deliver all the benefits …

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                  Agriculture Act 2020

                  I don’t give a shit about Boris, I’m more of a Tony Benn fan https://medium.com/@WhiteWednesday/tony-benn-on-democracy-and-the-eu-20th-november-1991-2f734f163ddf

                  Just not a fan of an inept undemocratic EU with fucked agriculture and fishing policies

                  I bet you won’t be such a big fan when you get the right wing in charge of the EU

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    Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay.

    Couple of years ago this was put on hold because Brazil wouldn’t stop burning the Amazon. Last year Brazil approved so called “Devastation Bill” that rolled back many environmental protections but I guess EU is too weak now to further delay this trade deal.

    Meanwhile in Argentina Milei is celebrating signing this deal while praising Trump, who’s trying to undermine EU.

    Not sure if it’s a good deal for EU or a sign of desperation. EU used to use its deals to shape the world. Now they are celebrating a deal which will strengthen our opponents in Argentina while capitulating on environment in Brazil.

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    Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay.

    Who gets Chile?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement#The_technate

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      Not even us chileans get Chile tbh.

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