Try Marxist-Leninists. I literally had this exact conversation the other day with two .ml users… They were trying to claim communism “actually totally works” because Russia/China/etcetc have proven it … except they’re not communist countries. They then went on to explain that, “no aktually having a ruling party that continues to segregate the population and elevate and protect their own positions is totally communism! You need to read more theory, because there has to be a transition to communism …”
blah blah blah… They’re literally too stupid to understand OP’s joke. They unironically think that stuff.
The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more.
So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything.
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Try Marxist-Leninists. I literally had this exact conversation the other day with two .ml users… They were trying to claim communism “actually totally works” because Russia/China/etcetc have proven it … except they’re not communist countries. They then went on to explain that, “no aktually having a ruling party that continues to segregate the population and elevate and protect their own positions is totally communism! You need to read more theory, because there has to be a transition to communism …”
blah blah blah… They’re literally too stupid to understand OP’s joke. They unironically think that stuff.
The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more.
So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything.
lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it’s such a hopeful premise IRL.
It’s also stupid to call any transitionary period ‘communism’ itself, either, much like supposedly China today.