• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    That’s neat. Meanwhile, explain to me how the “calamity” of the Great Flood was not evil, or how the “calamity” in Hell for all eternity is not evil, or how killing everyone on Earth who doesn’t bow to Jesus is not evil (Revelation), and so on.

    He’s the source of all evil (and calamity), there is no evil without God. It’s stupid to think anything else. So stupid.

    God says He is the source of all evil. Are you calling Him a liar? Your “talking point” is an absurdity.

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      6 days ago

      Same reason as why sending someone to prison for committing murder isn’t evil. It is justice. Punishing evil isn’t evil. It’s Justice. And God is Perfect, therefore He’s Perfectly Just.

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        Tell me more about punishing evil infants.

        1 Samuel 15:2-3

        Thus says the Lord of hosts: I will punish the Amalekites for what they did in opposing the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”

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        There’s no justice in Hell.

        There’s no justice in the Apocalypse.

        He’s perfectly evil, and He hangs out with Lucifer and makes bets and tortures people for sport.

        He said so. Are you calling God a liar?

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          Quite frankly, I find comfort in that the scum of this earth will be punished. I don’t need to bear grudges, as God would sort it out. The apocalypse is what this wretched race of people deserve. You see it in the news, we rape, kill and murder each other over lines on maps and money. We were given this earth by Him and we are actively destroying it. It’s actually so merciful of God to even let us live than to just end us all this very second.

          If you’re talking about Job, Job makes it clear that it’s Lucifer who tortures people. Lucifer only tortures people when God lifts His protection. But in the end, Job was not only compensated on earth, but is in heaven. I doubt right now that thousands of years later, Job enjoying all of that thousands of years of glory really cares about what happened for those few short decades thousands of years ago.

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            That’s awful. You think Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, and others should all burn forever?

            You are definitely bearing grudges.

            Lucifer tortures people because God made him to torture people… God Himself likes to watch the suffering of others, and the smell of their burning flesh is like incense to Him. Disgusting filth.

            It’s vile, the entire book from start to finish. But you go right ahead and take comfort in eternal torture.

            Meanwhile, God Himself commanded His people to take slaves, rape, and murder, over and over and over and over. I’m sure you take comfort in that, too.

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              That’s awful. You think Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, and others should all burn forever?

              If you don’t want anything to do with Jesus, He respects your decision.

              Lucifer tortures people because God made him to torture people

              If you’re talking about hell, no he doesn’t. Hell was made to torture him. Hell wasn’t made for Humans. Heaven was.

              Meanwhile, God Himself commanded His people to take slaves, rape, and murder, over and over and over and over. I’m sure you take comfort in that, too.

              Rape was never commanded. God executed his judgement on the evil and the wicked. You cannot be mad at God for wiping out the wicked.

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                If you don’t want anything to do with Jesus, He respects your decision.

                Okay, burning in Hell for not wanting anything to do with the mass murderer Jesus is by no means “just”. Also, murdering those who do not agree to worship is not “respecting your decision”

                If you’re talking about hell, no he doesn’t. Hell was made to torture him. Hell wasn’t made for Humans. Heaven was.

                God knew it was made to torture humans, how can you tell? Because He uses it to torture humans. He describes their torture.

                Lucifer? Well, He hangs out with Lucifer, and they talk and gossip and murder and torture for sport. According to God, anyway. Are you calling God a liar?

                Rape was never commanded. God executed his judgement on the evil and the wicked. You cannot be mad at God for wiping out the wicked.

                Sure it was, repeatedly. Do you think the new “owners” waited for consent to have sex with their newly-captured virgin slave wives whose family they just murdered in cold blood? Absurd. Sickening. Vile.

                God knew they would be raped, because He commanded “His People” to enslave (and marry) them. The lucky ones were murdered.

                That’s not just. People who don’t worship God are not “wicked” and worthy of murder and rape.

                That’s the EXACT OPPOSITE of justice.

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                  not wanting anything to do with the mass murderer Jesus is by no means “just”.

                  If you hate and oppose the literal embodiment of Perfection, then yes. Yes it is.

                  God knew it was made to torture humans, how can you tell? Because He uses it to torture humans. He describes their torture.

                  It’s described as the “The lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels” while heaven is described as “I am going there to prepare a place for you

                  God knew they would be raped, because He commanded “His People” to enslave (and marry) them. The lucky ones were murdered.

                  You’re referring to the Old Testament now. Marriage was permitted at one point to captured women because the people’s hearts were hard and it was a concession. It instructed that she was to be afforded the privileges and dignity of a wife, and thus wasn’t a sex slave.