• Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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    7 days ago

    All fascists need to either stop being fascists or die. There is no middle ground with ideology that at the core seeks to exterminate entire groups of people. You aren’t born as a fascist, it’s an ideology you choose to support; these people are evil. If they won’t stop being evil, there is no other options than them being killed. It’s either them or an unimaginable number of people as their victims. There is no moral high ground here

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      7 days ago

      In the end everyone wants to love and be loved. Most hatefull people like you or the facists you want to kill act out of fear of losing the things/people that they love. We could simply focus more ob what we want instead of what we don’t want.

      • Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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        7 days ago

        Nah, I obviously don’t want to kill them, quite the opposite. I’d like nothing more than a peaceful world with no war or atrocities. But this is not an ideal world where we can hold hands and sing kumbaya to make the evil to go away, we have to defend what’s good or it is destroyed.

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          6 days ago

          Ok so you fear to take responsability for your comments by saying that someone else should kill them. You see that this is no different from the ones you blame? You don’t need to be like them. You can do better.

          Is death really the only way you see? What can you do to make a difference?

          • Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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            6 days ago

            Why are you putting words in my mouth? I will kill and likely die if the war ever comes to my doorstep and I have to. Would you have just let the nazis win ww2 then? There’s no point in both-siding when the choices are either evil or fighting against it. It’s pretty obvious which side any decent person will take

            Edit// To answer your edits; death is obviously not the only way I see - I said it in the first message already, they can always stop being fascist before it is too late. What we can do to make difference is stop fascists taking power in the first place. We can be better people, help our neighbors, pay taxes, support public healthcare and minimum wages, vote for people who don’t support fascism… But when the fascists are already taking over? There’s very few choices in those moments, since they will use violence once they believe they’ll win. It’s in the core of fascism itself

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              Exactly. You can’t out-nice a group that doesn’t value nice. Tolerant societies cannot tolerate intolerance, the old paradox.