• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    9 days ago

    Thats a stupid fucking idea. Trump and his Russian superiors want the USA out of NATO, weakening NATO is moronic.

    NATO invading the USA will find tons of support when they get here, it’s the only viable option which doesn’t cripple the defence of democratic nations around the world.

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      8 days ago

      So even if the US invades Greenland, you want the US to stay in NATO? Also surely Europe should invest in increasing its independence from the US, given that the US is unreliable.

      NATO invading the USA will find tons of support when they get here

      Some Americans might support it, but I don’t think it would happen. All the other NATO countries would not want to get into a conflict with the US.

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        8 days ago

        If the USA invades a NATO member then, in an ideal world, first NATO will invade the USA and hold those responsible accountable, then allow the USA to reorganize its leadership and start paying reparations. During this process, if another nation such as Russia or China attacks a NATO member, then the USA will have the responsibility to wage war on that person as well.

        The USA’s defence spending dwarfs any other country on earth. NATO instantly loses a third of its capabilities the moment the USA withdraws, it can never be allowed.

        Countries choosing not to fight when NATO articles are filed would defeat the purpose of NATO and exclude their nation from any future defence, on top of just being morally wrong.

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          21 hours ago

          I wish the US would be held accountable to the same rules as every other country, but I don’t think what you describe would happen. I don’t think anybody wants to invade the US when the US has the most powerful military on the planet.

          As for NATO losing capabilities if the US leaves, sure. But it looks like the US doesn’t really care about helping defend Europe anyway. Maybe at some point Europe will just have to focus on its own defence without the US. You say it would be “morally wrong” if a NATO country (e.g. the US) wouldn’t fulfil its NATO commitments. Do we think Trump cares about morals though?

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            13 hours ago

            USA is about a third of NATO capability, and war with them would be inevitable if they fell into dictatorship and started expanding.

            It is not a question of if NATO responds but when, and the sooner the better.