• hyphen612@sh.itjust.works
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    Masked man tries to enter woman’s vehicle; she drives away, other masked man not in any danger of the departing vehicle shoots the driver. No officers ever present in front of the vehicle, yet they claim risk to officers.

    Surprise, you live in a police state.

    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      There was someone in front of the vehicle, you can see them jump out of the way depending on what video you watch.

      This is not a defence of ICE, but part of your statement was straight up false information.

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      Ok this was definitely murder but there was an agent standing in front of the car. He barely jumps out of the way at the end.

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        He didn’t need to have his gun drawn and you’re not going to convince me he didn’t already have it out with how fast he started shooting. None of the other “officers” felt they needed to have their weapons out.

        Also when she starts to accelerate you can see the shooter’s feet between the legs of the one grabbing the door, not in front of the car. He’s in front of the car for maybe half a second when she starts to move forward, starts shooting, then continues to shoot after he’s clear.

        At best he’s getting a broken foot or leg if he actually got run over at that speed from that angle.

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          There’s a bunch of videos from different angles but:

          He wasn’t just standing in front of her.

          He was walking past the front of the car, about when the guy touches the door handle he stops walking just barely still in front of her.

          With everything going on the driver likely never even saw him.

          The gun was drawn when the car barely moves forward a few inches, then he begins to shoot almost immediately as soon as it moves again.he could have taken a single step to his right and let the vehicle drive by. Instead he played matador and shot multiple times while doing so. Him firing the gun only made it more likely he’d be injured.

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            Yeah I don’t think she saw him at all, probably afraid of the dude trying to rip open her door.

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          Doesn’t change the fact there was someone in front of the vehicle.

          This is bad enough without people straight up ignoring reality.

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            You’ll note I say he’s in front of the car for about half a second when she starts to move forward. You can see this in another video from the front angle where he rolls off the front left of the vehicle then starts shooting. He continues to fire as she goes past him and he’s clear of the car.

            The reality is that the shooter is a trigger happy dumbass approaching a car in drive from the front or manipulated the situation so he could shoot her and claim he felt he was in danger at worst.

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              But this is America, you can kill a black person over stealing a bag of skittles if they make you scared.

              We literally made being a scared pussy legal with Zimmerman.

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          You can frame it however you want. The fact is he’s standing in front of the car, and the lady floors it anyway. Put this in front of a court and it’s assault on an officer with a deadly weapon 10/10 times. Broken foot or ninja roll out of the way, it’s assault. And cops shoot when assaulted.

          ACAB.

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              I’m not tryna argue in that murderer’s favor on the internet. I’m just trying to remind everyone that pigs have a ton of leeway once they getfeel threatened.

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              Cops is not just a synonym for “police”.

              A “copper” is anyone who seizes something.

              People used it for police because they seized goods and people.

              They were literally copping people, so people called them cops.

              So ice are 100% “cops” even if you never knew what a cop was.

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            The lady does not floor it you imbecile, she’s fucking dead and her foot crushes the gas pedal, as what happens when someone’s brain is destroyed. Unless you live here, shut the fuck up.

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              First shot is after the vehicle bumps him. But go off. Wish she’d crushed him to death.

              I’m not even saying it was on purpose for fucks sake. It obviously wasn’t. He obviously wasn’t in danger in retrospect. But badges kill when they feel threatened. I dunno why this is shocking.

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          Chill chill I’m not trying to convince you of anything, except that there definitely was an agent in front of the woman when she tried to flee.

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        He didn’t got out of the way before because he was busy fucking shooting the woman in the face.

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        US immigration officer fatally shoots woman in Minneapolis https://share.google/Rec8ewVBhqKXvIrwG

        Watch the video, as she was backing up to move, an agent jumped in front of the vehicle gun drawn. Another agent, who killed her, already had his gun drawn. Either way they were going to kill her.

        And you assholes still won’t admit you live in a police state. Being a white male won’t save you.

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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          Yo fuck ice and we do live in a police state. I’m just pointing out basic facts - when she shifts to forward drive the ice agent was in front of her. She swerved to the right as he jumped to the left and she still hit him.