• Coriza@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    4 days ago

    I feel like it falls to the same problem. They will see Ron Swanson, a tridimensional complex character and just flat it to the “cool macho” stuff and ignore his character growth and confuse aspects that are flaws but maybe charming or colorful to actual qualities.

    • derfunkatron@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      4 days ago

      It’s an issue with being able to identify and assimilate positive traits, I think. Ron is a stoic and self-disciplined which is often read as emotionally repressed unnecessarily strict dad energy. Instead, it should be read as introspection, strong personal accountability, and authenticity and intentionality of thought and action. Ron also isn’t a reactive persona; when something challenges his beliefs, he chops down a tree while he mulls over the idea and decides how he wants to move on from the experience. Without the nuance, it just looks like a dude gets mad and does man stuff with an axe until he cools off.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          4 days ago

          If all libertarians were like Swanson, the world would be a better place.

          This is our park and defiling it would violate the non-aggression principle.

        • derfunkatron@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          4 days ago

          I mean, yeah. That’s for the character development and human flaws. Even Jean-Ralphio has some redeemable moments.

          • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            I bailed around season 5 I think (just after Leslie won the election), so I have missed some of it, but the arc I saw was him becoming more of a dumbass libertarian not less.

            He’s obviously cool in a bunch of other ways, a funny character, and he has a pretty broad sense of equity.

            I don’t think I could last long in a job that I was deliberately doing poorly, and hindering other people around me. I feel like that’s a setup that can deliver jokes in a sitcom, but he would be an absolute rage inducer in the office.

            • compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              3 days ago

              He has some really good character development in Season 5/6 as he becomes a father and discovers that being a good dad involves things like not booby trapping your house.

      • NKBTN@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        Very much the “positive traits of conservatives” you’ve listed there. Always annoying to realise there ARE some

        • derfunkatron@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 days ago

          I’d argue these values are not inherently conservative, even if conservatism reinforces the idea of having those values and attempts to institutionalize some perverse variation of those principles.

          While many conservatives and libertarians may profess to be principled, their actions demonstrate that they are full of shit.