• fizzle@quokk.au
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      12 days ago

      This is international diplomacy 101 for China.

      They’re very vocal about the perceived infractions of others, while refusing to acknowledge their own.

      Its more about shaping the perceptions of their own citizens than whatever foreigners might think.

      In this case, theyre dead right ofc.

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        12 days ago

        They’re very vocal about the perceived infractions of others, while refusing to acknowledge their own.

        Its more about shaping the perceptions of their own citizens than whatever foreigners might think.

        Unlike the US. /s

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          12 days ago

          US citizens are pretty vocal about the failings of their nation. Good luck finding that in unimprisoned China nationals.

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              11 days ago

              I didn’t imply ALL of them thought the same way. My point was that Americans still have the freedom to speak up (for now)

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                11 days ago

                Tell that to people like Fred Hampton or Garry Web or Chelsea Manning.

                All spoke out against the American government and all paid for it w their lives; their livelihoods; or both and time has vindicated all of them.

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                  11 days ago

                  I don’t disagree with you, but there’s still a vast gulf between freedom of speech in the US and China

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                    9 days ago

                    Freedom is a dangerous word. In the hands of anyone in the US they believe unequivocally that they have it in all regards and nobody else does. The US does not hold a monopoly over freedom.

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                    10 days ago

                    Polls of Chinese show double the contentment level of their democracy than Americans. Freedom of speech here is freedom to disinform, promote fraudulent economics, and be divisive. Congress never does anything popular. We have a fascist oligarchist corporatist zionist supremacy and you are forced to like it. China promotes pluralist economic policies with growth.

                    Every country we bless as a legitimate democracy happens to be a US colony, with election outcomes, races among parties devoted to US policy.

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                    11 days ago

                    What is that gulf? I’ve provided concrete and glaring examples that what you said is not true and you haven’t provided anything besides propaganda.

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              10 days ago

              Pretty much the opposite actually. Trump’s in power, why would his supporters fear being vocal right now

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        10 days ago

        I mean, they learned from the best superpower of the last half century. At least they haven’t gotten to exporting liberation by force stage of the playbook quite yet.