Weight Comparison
| Model | Weight (grams) | Screen Size |
|---|---|---|
| LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) | 1,199 | 16-inch |
| MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) | 1,510 | 15-inch |
| MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) | 1,550-1,600 | 14-inch |
| MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) | 2,140-2,200 | 16-inch |
| Model | Weight (grams) | Screen Size |
|---|---|---|
| LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) | 1,199 | 16-inch |
| MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) | 1,510 | 15-inch |
| MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) | 1,550-1,600 | 14-inch |
| MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) | 2,140-2,200 | 16-inch |
I’m not going to buy anything from LG any more. My ongoing battle against my own LG TV’s enshittification (forced ads and AI everywhere, getting worse every update) has soured my opinion on LG. They can go to hell.
Easy workaround, don’t ever let your TV access the internet.
Well the problem is we only use the TV for streaming and my partner wants Netflix and other commercial stuff. Which means I would have to connect another internet device to the TV where the same problem happens again. Going exclusively Jellyfin or whatever is not a solution at this time
I have a steam deck and I stream from it directly to the TV. I pirate all my Netflix shows
A Chromecast is not full of ads, but are they all just Google TV now? Is Google TV full of ads? I haven’t used one.
Could be an option to reset your TV, disconnect it from the Internet, and buy & use a Google TV device instead. The streaming devices seem to have far fewer ads and shit than TV manufacturers cram into their devices nowadays.
The hoops we have to jump through to minimise surveillance capitalism… I see elsewhere in the thread you’ve had to use a PiHole to block most of the TVs traffic.
Yeah… I have older 4k Roku devices luckily, they don’t have microphones and I can opt out of ads.
You can opt out of ads on a Roku? Last I checked (like 4 years ago) ads were anywhere in the OS.
May be different depending on regulation/country?
Easy workaround if you have a stb that has AV1 compatibility or pirated content to stream locally
Really? I thought LG was known for making the least smart TVs. I bought one not too long ago and I haven’t noticed a single smart feature.
I had to setup a custom pihole LG blacklist to keep it from displaying ads in the menu. And LG is well known for spying on their customers in the worst way possible
Rectally?
Seriously though, screen grabs are bullshit. Fuck those guys.
I agree, LG is a pretty awful brand all around but I really like the idea of new lighter materials used in consumer hardware. Moving away from plastics to metal frames has been nothing but a fashion mistake.
I’ve actually always liked the solid feel of Macbooks. There are lighter laptops out there, but few if any feel as solid.
If you want a heavy brick that doesn’t need to move around, then buy a desktop for the power.
If you want a heavy brick that does need to move around, then buy a Think Book so that it can survive a fall.
And if you want a light laptop that’s easy to carry around, then buy a Gram so that it can survive a fall and do basic 2007 things like include a numpad.
MacBooks heavy feel is literally just them overcharging you for something brittle. It’s like being charged more for furniture because it’s heavy only to find outs it’s made with MDF.
Macbooks have decent chips that are limited by Apple’s crappy software, a flat out badly designed OS, nice screens, and way too much weight for their utility.
ThinkBooks are super cheap crap, you mean ThinkPads. Lenovo is diluting the brand.
I worked as a refurb tech. Even the T and X seriess Thinkpads regularly came in with cracks, holes in the corners, etc. Macs would come in dented too, but never did I see a hole in one.
I do also have a desktop. And I move my laptops around, I just don’t drop them on pavement.
I’m also not disabled so I’m not sure why I need the lower weight for carrying a laptop around.
Hard disagree, macbooks have some of the most unergonomic and awful frame design. The sharp corner alone are just so peak stupidity.
I think people fall for “heavy == quality” falacy way too often here especially since the aluminum frame is actually worse at protecting the internals.
If I remember correctly, Beats headphones (and many other consumer portable electronics) have been found to have pieces of metal (or even concrete) attached inside their housings to add weight and the feeling of “solid”
I just like the rigidity. I hate bendy laptops.
Why would I need the internals protected? Like most laptops, none of mine move around a lot. If I worked out in the field, I’d get something actually tough, sure. But I don’t need a Toughbook.
You need internals protected from basic shock. Macbooks are notoriously very poor regarding drops while you can play volleyball with a plastic thinkpad.
Just don’t drop your laptop lmao, how hard can it be?
I’ve never dropped my Thinkpad even, and those are actually easier to accidentally trip over since they don’t have Magsafe.
Also I’ve seen hundreds of dented Macbooks work completely fine. Same with plastic laptops like the Thinkpad and Elitebook except they’d usually have a hole or crack in the corner after the drop instead of a dent.
You may not want to, but when you get food poisoning and have to run to the bathroom to throw up, you may knock the laptop over
I kinda get your point, but:
Not a high enough fall to cause actual* damage usually.
Tiny bit less likely to happen on a Mac because while you can still knock the laptop over, you’re WAY less likely to trip over the cable and pull it down. Magsafe is a godsend and I wish more manufacturers used it. I wish it was standardized.
* To the internals of the laptop, anyway. For the external bits: this is actually where the aluminium body is better than plastic. If it DOES deform, at the heights my laptops would usually be, it’s such a tiny dent nobody will notice it most of the time. Cheap plastic laptops would develop a literal hole. Particularly nasty with laptops that don’t easily come apart into a top and bottom case assembly. Something like a Thinkpad is excellent here though, because the bottom case comes off first when disassembling and it’s more likely to take damage than the palmrest.
Once you get to really big falls, plastic laptops are better because the internals are better protected. I don’t really throw my laptops out of 3rd story windows though. But if I worked at like a construction site, I’d absolutely prefer my laptop to be either something like a Toughbook, or a Thinkpad X240 or X250. I think Lenovo stopped making them as tough as those old models were, but I could be wrong. Those things you could easily drive over with a tractor lol
This is a common security fallacy as sure you might not drop your laptop like you’re not crashing your car but once you hit something it’s nice to have airbags right? People pay several thousand dollars to recover hard drives of dropped laptops and can you imagine being in such stressful position? So a bit of safety goes a long way.
Backups exist for all the important stuff and who even uses a spinny spinny crashy anymore? SSDs are incredibly fall resistant. Now Apple does make it difficult to recover data off a completely dead motherboard since in some models the storage is integrated, but it’d take a LOT of force to kill the motherboard. Not a drop from any usage height, it’d have to be out of a window on a fairly high floor.
I’m also incredibly privileged in that I know several people who repair these things professionally (usually liquid damage) so I can get these motherboards repaired for cheap too. Rest of the laptop doesn’t matter much, you can always find a donor or 2 to rebuild. Lovely part of having fewer SKUs and more units shipped per SKU than most other manufacturers. I used to do this professionally and it was always easier with Macs because we were able to stock and catalog all the parts for all the models made in, at the time like previous 8 years. With non-Apple laptops, we only stocked parts for select super mainstream business models. Think Thinkpad T and X series only.