I’ve thought about this for a long time. Nice to see it getting attention.
this is why I don’t really appreciate Graphene’s sandboxed google play services as much as I appreciate MicroG. MicroG allows you to control which GPS-compatible apps get registered to your random ID on google’s servers.
It’s also worth studying your individual apps and how exactly they handle google push notifications. I know that there are various configurations, some which allow Google to see the content of the notification and some which done. of course, regardless of that, metadata such as who it gets delivered to and when, is still there.
What users often do not realize is that almost all such notifications travel over Google and Apple’s servers.
So on the Android side, is an app safe from this if it doesn’t rely on Firebase Cloud Messaging?
correct
UnifiedPush needs all the support we can give it
agreed…
Yes.
Consider blocking Firebase domains in HOSTS file, which you can do in NetGuard or Invizible Pro, which you can supply your HOSTS file.
Not sure if Hagezi or such community made HOSTS rulesets carry Firebase domains in their anti-Google/BigTech part of domains.
There are no client side tools on Apple to accomplish this, unlike on any Android, no matter $50 or $5000.
I use DivestOS, so Google Play Services and all that comes along with it isn’t there in the first place
Is there a method to see which apps are using Firebase?
These are in progressing order of complexity.
- Exodus database shows the “bad” domains an app connects to.
- Warden on F-Droid does a similar but more comprehensive job for any installed app packages.
- App Manager shows activities, services, receivers and providers apps utilise or have in a comprehensive manner.
Thanks
Apple confirms this - https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/06/apple-governments-surveil-push-notifications/
…after many years, when Google confirmed it long ago. Apple once again tells us they are a fake bastion of privacy.
Is it right that Apple is putting the responsibility of preventing it on app developers?
