• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I actually disagree with how valuable that is.

    I get many people hold a position of “it doesn’t matter why someone is doing good. Just as long as they’re doing good”.

    I believe that’s a bad position to take and we’re living the consequences of that now. If millions of Americans fought to end Nazi Germany, just to come home and vote in Nazism or its closest representatives with every subsequent election, leading us to fascism today, then their “good” is null.

    They cannot claim to have fought for the constitution and freedom, just to come home and spend the rest of their lives fighting to destroy both. And if we do not curate these clowns out when their usefulness ends, the cancer on society they are will only grow and spread. The why always matters.

    • PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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      6 days ago

      My point isn’t that it doesn’t matter why they did good as long as they did good, or that they, as individuals, are in some way redeemed by being manipulated to do something good. My point is only that the horrific amount of terrible people in our society does not preclude positive achievements which can reinforce the position of good people and good views, and help propagate the same.

      I absolutely agree that fascists should be curated out of society whenever and wherever possible. Only pointing out that, without need for a literal genocide, we can still make progress even with our… current demographics. Even our enemies are not necessarily obstacles if approached with the proper strategy, though they doubtlessly wish to be, just as many American fascists ended up being used to end fascism in Europe and discredit it at home.

      We just have to fight hard, fight smart, and fight with an eye towards shrinking their ‘share’ of the population and enlarging the ‘share’ of the sane and decent.