After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying “99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in ‘Tiny Man Square’ […] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda […],” I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn’t change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.
I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.
Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?
Actually I think that if Amerikkka became a pile of rubble tomorrow it wouldn’t be worse for pretty much all of humanity. I think the opposite is true.
If you think the US goes away when the authoritarians take over, you are delusional. We’ll just be an overt empire instead of a (ostensibly) covert one.
I’m well aware of the concentration camps, and I’m also aware that China also has concentration camps and that Chinese media can’t talk about it - including social media. I’m also aware that you’re going to tell me that’s just Western propaganda and that China is just sending Uyghurs to amusement parks in Xinjiang or some other nonsense. The US has bullshit explanations for our concentration camps too. They are just processing centers, or the people held there are terrorists and drug smugglers. I accept Chinas bullshit just as much as you accept Trump’s.
Millions of Americans are resisting our camps, and they likely won’t survive 2026. Trump’s project of consolidating power is failing, in spite of the assistance he gets from Russia. Our prison system should really be what you use as a distraction, because that’s going to be a lot harder to reform, though in many blue states there has been a lot of progress.
The US is authoritarian, your statement seems to imply that it isn’t. it’s a dictatorship of capital, as someone living in the US, your humanity is largely contingent on your ability to pay rent. Those who are unable to will end up unhoused, the targets of state violence, disenfranchised, and increasingly likely to end up in the worlds largest prison system.
The world is authoritarian, including China. The US under Trump and his cronies is more authoritarian than before to an extreme degree, and you guys think that’s great. So, no whining about authoritarianism from you please.
I don’t, and I don’t think anyone else commenting here does. just another unfounded assertion
I think that the US was authoritarian before Trump, and it will continue to be after him unless the political economy fundamentally changes.
I don’t think America’s concentration camps will go away in 2026. They didn’t go away after Trump lost in 2020.
Can you show evidence that China has concentration camps?
Can I show evidence that you won’t hand wave away as “propaganda”? No. I know already that no evidence counter to the courts predetermined conclusion will be admissable.
Thanks!