We, the admin team, decry all forms of settler-colonialism, and we recognize that Zionism is a pro-settler-colonialist position.
Therefore we propose that should no longer be accepting of any Zionist accounts on our instances.
Please upvote for agree, downvote for disagree.
Note: we only count votes by instance members of dbzer0 and anarchist.nexus, plus a few vouched-for external users.
Hi mateys, I’ve kept things simple in the above text, for brevity, but in fact it took the admin team quite a while to get to this stage. We have discussed the policy change extensively, and a variety of different perspectives emerged. I will attempt to sum them up below as best I can:
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The “this isn’t that complicated” school of thought goes something like this: If someone is consistently posting comments that mirror Hasbara talking points (e.g. justifying the genocide in Gaza, consistently painting Palestinians as terrorists and Israel as the victim), then they should be instance banned. It’s just not acceptable for Zionists to be allowed on our instances.
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The “slippery slope” / “purity test” school of thought is that banning people for having an “unpopular” political opinion would potentially mean banning half the fediverse, if more and more of these policies were enacted over time. To attempt to mitigate this we are keeping the scope of this rule as narrow as possible, and I also don’t think many of our users will be affected. Also, we typically don’t have frequent policy changes, and I have no reason to expect that to change moving forward.
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Another important discussion point was “how do we decide whether someone is pro-Zionist or not?” We can’t always be 100% sure of someone’s true intentions, we can only go on what they have posted and that is subject to interpretation. I don’t feel there is an easy answer to this one, except to say that we would have to be pretty certain before issuing a perma-ban.
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The “geopolitics don’t matter” school of thought is that trying to be on the “correct” side of every issue is kind of pointless because nothing that happens in lemmy chat forums will ever make an ounce of difference in the real world. Don’t bother moderating users over political/ideological differences, just let people argue if they want. While I can totally empathize with this sentiment, I can also see the case for taking a clear stance on this topic in accordance with our values and the overwhelming support for the Palestinian cause among our users. Personally, I am advocating in favor of the resolution.
Please add your comments below if you want to provide your own thoughts on the topic, or have any questions.
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I’m not on reddit you dumbfuck. I am not “threatening” to kill myself. A close friend of mine committed suicide and I’ve been pretty bummed out since then. I have bought poison if I want to use it long before joining this instance. I mentioned this shit because some bitch is saying that I’m so scared of death, and that my arguments are about being scared of being hurt, and none of my arguments are about my own fear of death. Fuck you. You are all awful pieces of shit, fuck this instance, fuck this movement, I’m out. You should all say some more mean shit but say it to someone else. Fuck, if this is the toxic Pro-Palestinian environment, I don’t give a fuck anymore and I’m actually glad this was put to a vote because I didn’t know what terrible people you are. I don’t want to learn about this shit, donate to it, spend time on it. Have your moral high ground and condescending attitude, have your pure echo chamber. You’re actually assholes. I used to be against the conservative government in Israel… but now… I want nothing to do with any of this shit, I have no opinion on the Israel/Palestinian thing instead of being for ICC stuff, I am no longer someone who votes against people who don’t support Palestinians, seeing this side of the Palestinian movement and the meanness you all have shown me is fucking vile. I was a non-expert ally who was generally on the side of Palestinian people and believed they are being treated unfairly. Now, I want nothing to do with this shit. Suck my dick you piece of shit.