We, the admin team, decry all forms of settler-colonialism, and we recognize that Zionism is a pro-settler-colonialist position.

Therefore we propose that should no longer be accepting of any Zionist accounts on our instances.

Please upvote for agree, downvote for disagree.

Note: we only count votes by instance members of dbzer0 and anarchist.nexus, plus a few vouched-for external users.


Hi mateys, I’ve kept things simple in the above text, for brevity, but in fact it took the admin team quite a while to get to this stage. We have discussed the policy change extensively, and a variety of different perspectives emerged. I will attempt to sum them up below as best I can:

  • The “this isn’t that complicated” school of thought goes something like this: If someone is consistently posting comments that mirror Hasbara talking points (e.g. justifying the genocide in Gaza, consistently painting Palestinians as terrorists and Israel as the victim), then they should be instance banned. It’s just not acceptable for Zionists to be allowed on our instances.

  • The “slippery slope” / “purity test” school of thought is that banning people for having an “unpopular” political opinion would potentially mean banning half the fediverse, if more and more of these policies were enacted over time. To attempt to mitigate this we are keeping the scope of this rule as narrow as possible, and I also don’t think many of our users will be affected. Also, we typically don’t have frequent policy changes, and I have no reason to expect that to change moving forward.

  • Another important discussion point was “how do we decide whether someone is pro-Zionist or not?” We can’t always be 100% sure of someone’s true intentions, we can only go on what they have posted and that is subject to interpretation. I don’t feel there is an easy answer to this one, except to say that we would have to be pretty certain before issuing a perma-ban.

  • The “geopolitics don’t matter” school of thought is that trying to be on the “correct” side of every issue is kind of pointless because nothing that happens in lemmy chat forums will ever make an ounce of difference in the real world. Don’t bother moderating users over political/ideological differences, just let people argue if they want. While I can totally empathize with this sentiment, I can also see the case for taking a clear stance on this topic in accordance with our values and the overwhelming support for the Palestinian cause among our users. Personally, I am advocating in favor of the resolution.

Please add your comments below if you want to provide your own thoughts on the topic, or have any questions.

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    • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      15 hours ago

      Haha, no sweat! I sometimes feel that tiny anxiety too, when I’m in that position, like “is this person gonna see that and make assumptions?”

      Ain’t no thing, apparently votes are public and there’s a tool to see em for anyone who REALLY wants to. I am thankfully not that flavor of unhinged lol.

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        15 hours ago

        I forgot about that I like getting a lot of upvotes but the downvotes i don’t think my instance gives me a total like some do

        I can see ups and downs though and mine automatically gives myself one yay

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          14 hours ago

          The silly part is that - while I sincerely believe they have almost no value and simply say more about our tendency to happily accept another’s opinion, in a lazy way, than anything reliable about the content voted on - I can’t help but like that feeling too lol.

          Some tricks are too potent for our dumb brains.

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            14 hours ago

            Now imagine being Nikki Minaj and losing ten million followers at once overnight like she did on instagram I think it was… people trashing her in every way like well beyond criticizing her art or whatnot lol

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              10 hours ago

              Ehhh I dunno what to tell ya lol, you lost me there.

              Fuck Nikki Minaj specifically, hope that experience sucked for her. Fuck anyone else in that broad category of human.