• stevestevesteve@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Oh I’m sorry did I not vote my ass off and protest and write my congresspeople and every other option short of violence I can think of?

    Fuck off “because of people who had given up”. The people who gave up are the people at the top. The people who were very much in power yet failed to go after Trump after his 1st term, and who failed to put in protections for his second term, and who have failed their country every step of the way. Forgive me for losing faith in a party who could have continued to hold out against the budget bill, yet mind-bogglingly didn’t. Fuck off with “it didn’t magically fix everything”. Fix maybe one thing and I’d have had a little faith. The American government has entirely failed America and there appear to be no more nonviolent options for resolution here.

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      2 days ago

      Why do people assume that, when talking about something that doesn’t contextually apply to them… it magically applies to them for some reason.

      I’m not talking about people who voted their ass off in every election possible, marched in protests, contacted their current reps, etc. as evidenced by specifically referencing people who did the absolute minimum.

      If you gave up after all that effort, that’s a completely different problem. One mostly centered around the narcissistic idea of “I did everything I could and nothing changed, therefore doing those things makes no difference”. It is about a combined effort, not a singular one. One person doing everything they can (as long as their bank account couldn’t fund entire countries) ain’t gonna do shit by itself.

      It’s also not about a single party. Anyone who just looks at a party and thinks “That’s my team, I’ll do whatever they say” is also a problem. It is possible to change that team with enough (collective) effort, but banking on everyone on that team being magically “the good guy” is naive at best, and downright foolish otherwise. Blaming them for all your problems equally so.

      The country is made up of people, not just parties or corporations, no matter how many Supreme Court justices think otherwise. That’s who’s going to make a difference.

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        2 days ago

        why do people assume that I’m talking about them when I reply to their message implying that I’m talking about them

        The closest thing to a solution now is secession and that basically means civil war. It’s not giving up to recognize that the American people have already lost, immensely.

        It’s also pretty reductionist to frame this as a voter apathy issue. “Well if people cared more…” No. When we’re talking about the USA we’re talking systemic failures of our systems. Mandatory voting has been around for centuries at this point, any party could have stood behind that but didn’t. For as long as most of us have been alive the US system has been disenfranchising and blocking voters. Don’t tell me it’s apathy that got trump elected the second time. It’s a system that failed.