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It’s worth than slavery, in some ways, because workers become fully disposable.
Under chattel slavery, slave owners spent money on slaves and slaves had a value on them. They insured them against “loss”. They wanted to get their money’s worth. Just like if a car behaved badly you wouldn’t sink it into the lake, if a slave behaved badly you wouldn’t get rid of them without some kind of compensation and it was often easier to beat them into submission.
Under capitalism, you rent your slaves and don’t care what happens to them at all
Is it like a requirement for tankys to always be downplaying atrocities? You’re not a fucking slave, slaves at least would try to escape, or kill masa. Slaves actually had to work hard. I think you’re closer to the bourgeois life style than the Russian peasants you admire so much.
No one mentioned Russian peasants.
The references are quite apparently relevant to life under advanced economies following neoliberalism.
Your objection frankly amounts to little more than a deranged rant.
I wish instance blocks would also block all posts from people from the instance.
What does it even do, actually? Just block the communities in the instance?
Many instances have de-federated with LemmyGrad and Hexbear, which are considered to be badly behaved at the level of the administrators.
The instance to which you object is not similarly problematic. Rather, you feel annoyed by the political leanings, even while the community is permissive of varied political orientations.
Instances may be blocked in your user account, in case doing so makes your personal experience feel more relaxed or productive. You may also consider restricting your participation to communities that enforce a conformity you find suitable. There are plenty of safe spaces in the world for convicted liberals.
Rather, you feel annoyed by the political leanings,
No, that’s close to describing the problem, but doesn’t quite describe the issue accurately. The problem is that the quality of the propaganda from that instance is distasteful to me. Consistently so. This post is an obvious example.
Also the level of discourse by the users from that instance is problematic as well. You’re right that the problem is more subtle than with people from hexbear and lemmygrad, but there clearly are plenty of problematic and loud users in lemmy.ml as well.
You probably wouldn’t call the level of discourse in Twitter “annoying” either, would you?
Instances may be blocked in your user account, in case doing so makes your personal experience feel more relaxed or productive. You may also consider restricting your participation to communities that enforce a conformity you find suitable.
Yes, I have instance-level blocked lemmy.ml long ago. But the block doesn’t seem to be doing much. Definitely not the same effect as when an instance blocks another instance.
All that said, you may be right that I shouldn’t be so harsh against lemmy.ml. There are also many high-quality posters in there, and blocking individual users might be enough.
The community is maintained as permissive.
Defederation requires major consideration, if instance administrators are to remain responsible to their users broadly.
You may feel more comfortable in communities that enforce more narrow constraints.
Don’t shoot the message, shoot the messenger.
Oh no, did the meme about how dog shit your worldview is irritate you?
Liberals getting mad because they can’t block ideas from their feeds is hilarious.
Yes, that’s the reason. Not your incessant peddling of obvious bullshit into everybody’s mouths. I’m also defending your freedom to block obvious shit instances, whatever you might think that means.
Same; “obvious bullshit” is what I call sound reasoning that I don’t like too /s
.ml does a fantastic job of maintaining its echo chamber so there’s a proverb about glass houses and stones that comes to mind.
It’s a fact that .ml doesn’t block liberal instances. Yet .world blocks leftist instances. You’re in the glass house, dumbass.
I’m surprised dumbass isn’t on your instance’s naughty word list.
There are plenty of echo chambers of every variety and orientation. The value of federation is to produce an experience that is varied and complete.
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Yea, holding a job is just like slavery. It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it. One time I had to help a customer after I clocked out. You can read about it in my best selling memoir: twelve minutes a slave.
Them customers can be some real crackers I tell you! Last week I was tied up to a post and whipped for 12 straight hours before they chopped off my son’s foot, raped my daughter and sold her to a new owner. This capitalism is just like slavery indeed!
Anyway it’s a poor analogy because America isn’t a capitalist country, we’re an upside down socialist country where wealth is heavily redistributed from the bottom up. We take good care of our needy billionaires, the poor vulnerable .01%. The minority that matters the most.
The point is not that workers under capitalism are not paid wages, but rather that working for wages is required to survive.
Workers live under consistent threat of destitution, homelessness, and starvation, even while massive wealth is hoarded, and resources controlled, by an immensely privileged, narrow cohort of society. The coercive conditions of labor under capitalism give rise to the comparison with more explicit forms of slavery.
Is that the point? or is the point undermining slavery as an institution to demonstrate how much you hate your current existence? Do you think you could have used a better metaphor than slavery? For example Trump likes to think of himself as a king, that makes you a serf. Are we closer to feudalism than slavery? Idk lol how is any of this helpful or relevant to you? Are we more like peasants or slaves? When you’re done figuring that out, whatcha gonna do about it?
I already explained, the comparison to slavery arises from the coercive conditions of labor under capitalism.
