• cheesybuddha@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Are people still pretending the US is a Democracy?

    I’m in the US, and no serious person that I know actually thinks that. Plus, a bunch of the non serious people keep saying inane nonsense like “We are a republic, not a democracy”, demonstrating that they neither know nor care what system we use.

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      14 hours ago

      American exceptionalism is alive and well.

      The prevailing opinion, if not that the US remains as a functional democracy, that it once was functional as a democracy, but has become broken and in need of repair.

      The pivotal question is when, if ever, did it ever even come close to fulfilling its own ideals as a democracy.

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        13 hours ago

        Depending on your social status there’s good arguments to be made that the US has never been a functional democracy.

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          12 hours ago

          The US was founded on slavery and genocide. When elections were implemented, four percent only of the population was granted suffrage, propertied white men.

          I always wonder at what particular point the US is believed to have become democratic, since its founders clearly maintained a deep enthusiasm for racism, sexism, and aristocracy.

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        13 hours ago

        The last time we were close to fulfilling is a democracy is when we were instituting civil rights, workers rights, and social security. Idk the 1990s was kind of weird and cool. It was the sweet fruit of all that work right before it would go to rot. We still support our democratic ideals at a local level. At least us small town people, who are too insignificant to attract the attention of an establishment party. We can still vote for our neighbors to run the show.

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      13 hours ago

      Yes people still pretend that, I don’t know where you live that you think nobody pretends that.

      edit punctuation

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              13 hours ago

              I see, I was using voice to text so there should be a comma after the first that. However even without it, it still doesn’t say what you’re implying. You’re having to remove words to make yours even marginally plausible.

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                13 hours ago

                Yes, well the comma makes all the difference between a statement that makes sense and one that doesnt in this case

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                  13 hours ago

                  Not really, like I said you had to ignore half the sentence to even attempt to justify your comment. Not to mention the context. But I get it you’re just distracting from the actual point which was an absurd statement from the get-go.